V1 (current, open-source): Ship it. An LLM looks at HTML and draws what it thinks a browser would show. Technically a browser. Legally, probably also a browser. Morally, questionable.
V2: (oversubscribed $200m pre-seed, enterprise) The LLM writes a brand new browser engine from scratch every time you load a page. No bloat – the engine only supports exactly the features that page needs. Extremely efficient.
hilariously perfect.
I wonder what happens when you point v2 at the w3c compliance test.
If it works, maybe we get the first ever actually compliant browser? Which is then immediately deleted.
Firefox mobile still doesn’t pass acid3…
nothing? everything? we find the question to the answer for life, the universe and everything?
I do, however, know that the resulting cleanup (philosophical, psychological, physical, etc) will be epic!
as @CameronDev@programming.dev points out, the absurdity inherent in the art is quintessentially and wonderfully human.
Dear Developers,
I hope you have a wonderful day!
LLMs do not produce any kind art…
More to that, they include some human art in datasets, now obliterated and defaced…
I am sorry, but please consider removing this utterly awful… indifferent… empty… nonsense…Meanwhile, I wish you success, stability, and peace…
Please stay safe!Best and kind regards
Art is subjective. That your immediate kneejerk response is to try censor it, in my opinion, makes it the artiest of art.
The LLM isn’t what makes it art, the human who set up this system that uses an LLM to render/butcher a webpage is what makes it art. No different to Banksies shredder, its a tool used by the artist.
Isn’t LLM objective?
If so, don’t you objectify a thing asking an LLM to create a pain-ting (based on someone’s stolen subjective effort)?
Is that art? No, I don’t believe so, sorry.
It’s sorrow. It’s random. It’s noise.The LLM isn’t the art, its just a tool. The LLM powered browser created by the human is the art.
Sorrow, random and noise is what makes it art. It is taking a supposed technological “marvel” and exposing it for being a useless random noise. Its a modern version of the emperors new clothes.
If all you see is the LLM, you are missing the forest for the trees.
I am sorry, but if you consider inhuman noise art, may I ask, why do you care and are interested in art? Are you actually interested, or…?
Though, again, I will never understand how anyone may degrade, devalue, obliterate art so much as comparing, or equalizing it to an LLM that is a random algorithm (which is art, of course), based on random unknown data set, ran at unknown iteration and produces some objectified random output… with no effort, no individuality, no human experience, nothing… but just digital noise scrambled as if meatground from bloody sorrowful void of regrets and pain of robbed artists…
I… I am sorry… b-but… I will n-never agree on that. I would rather… die… w-with apologies to my family and friends…
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For example: https://lemmy.world/comment/22523235 (I tried multiple services in addition to the common as Shazam, but nothing was found…)
It almost feels like… I can see how some may find there something for their worldview, or need, or… experiment exchange for personal, private life time…
But… however hard I try… I just… regardless how hard I try… I just… cannot… see and feel it…
Yes, it shines, it sparkles, it sounds, but… it’s empty, or a white noise…
I don’t see there anything… anything actually valuable or invaluable… it’s noise… and very sorrowful one…
As if there are numerous people screaming, shouting, speaking, whispering, and even stay silent at the same time…
It’s… it’s… sorrowful… unbearable… noise…//
The main reason I am interested in art is communication… The soulful discussion about the reason, the truth, the life, the very purpose… A dialog between us, human, the people with souls and our beliefs, experience, desires, our mission… An attempt to express and listen to those who discover the world and life as a miracle…
To be frank… I try to always avoid anything AI in art however I can… because I instantly consider my finite life time…
Art helps me to find the very reason I appeared on this planet, in this Universe, in the infinite of time…
The effort in art expressed emphasizes the time as precious and finite resource we have…The effortful unique human experienced artwork helps me to believe… to believe I must continue the faithful adventure for the reason other people do…
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You?
I’ve said it twice now, the “art” is the browser as a whole. The LLM is nothing more than a canvas. Each butchered rendering of a page is a performance.
And the message is the exact same one you keep bringing up - that LLMs are wasteful noise machines.
There is a lot more to art than things that make us happy, this is one of those that doesn’t. You said it yourself, it makes you feel sorrow, that in of itself makes it art.
Brutalism makes me uncomfortable, its still art: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture
The Scream is deliberately designed to make you feel dread, it is art: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream
Horror movies are the same.
I do not understand you, sorry. The person did not develop the LLM algorithm, and has no clue how it works, I believe, or what includes its initial dataset it trained on with.
At this point, you could claim a result of Markov’s chain a poem, would you?
It’s not art. It’s a ridiculous mockery of such a miracle as art, and I have no idea what you’re trying to state here.Your examples are not even related to the case, at all. My feelings are not about the result of LLM as fear, scream etc., but its initial use defined as art and, sometimes even understandingly published so that the listener had no idea it was generated in 5 seconds and no actual human was involved or put any kind of personality or effort into, which is ridiculous and nonsense to consider anything but noise.
The LLM by itself is not the art, the browser system the developer created is.
A blank canvas by itself isn’t art, the painting created on it is.
lol, ridiculous.
Great argument.
