This ain’t the '90s anymore; CPUs have been fast for a while now. If your mid-development partial compilation time isn’t basically negligible with the CPUs we already have, your build script is probably fucked up or the module you’re working on is way too large. You should rarely be working on something with such cross-cutting concerns that you legitimately need to recompile vast swathes of the codebase at once.
If the new chips were actually faster than than current line. i.e. Ryzen 9 5950X has higher frequencies and Ryzen 7 5800XT increases boost only by 0.1GHz over Ryzen 7 5800X while Ryzen 9 5900X has more cores and same boost clock.
I hardly see anybody upgrading due to 0.1GHz, I’m curious though, what is your rationale? Perhaps you have a slower CPU and you would upgrade since the prices came down?
I am speaking about in general. Newer faster CPUs are something worth being happy about.
This being said there is more to CPUs than raw clock speeds. A major component is IPC uplift. For example if a new cpu has a 20% IPC improvement over an older CPU when they both run at say 3.5Ghz the newer CPU will do things 20% faster. It’s pretty cool stuff.
In the case of the CPUs you mentioned it looks like there was a 16% IPC uplift over last gen and last gen had a 18% uplift over the 5xxx series. I would be happy to have my code compile 16% + 18% faster.
That would be great if that was the case. However you were probably mislead by the title - that IPC increase applies only to 9XXX beasts (Zen 5), not these two AM4 refreshes. At least that’s how I understand it.
I was not in fact mislead. I actually went and found that article to help explain the concept of IPC uplift to you.
I was speaking of why new CPUs are a good thing worth being excited by in general. You were the one who said new CPUs aren’t worth being excited about in general.
As a bonus I showed how new CPUs even at the same speed have advantages. This all being said hey if you want to be a downer here go for it.
That’s great, however newer CPUs aren’t something to be excited for 🤷♂️
EDIT: I was referring to new AM4 ones.
For me they are. Faster compile times means I can iterate and test things faster.
If you do dev work on a day to day basis a newer faster cpu makes a major difference.
This ain’t the '90s anymore; CPUs have been fast for a while now. If your mid-development partial compilation time isn’t basically negligible with the CPUs we already have, your build script is probably fucked up or the module you’re working on is way too large. You should rarely be working on something with such cross-cutting concerns that you legitimately need to recompile vast swathes of the codebase at once.
If the new chips were actually faster than than current line. i.e. Ryzen 9 5950X has higher frequencies and Ryzen 7 5800XT increases boost only by 0.1GHz over Ryzen 7 5800X while Ryzen 9 5900X has more cores and same boost clock. I hardly see anybody upgrading due to 0.1GHz, I’m curious though, what is your rationale? Perhaps you have a slower CPU and you would upgrade since the prices came down?
I am speaking about in general. Newer faster CPUs are something worth being happy about.
This being said there is more to CPUs than raw clock speeds. A major component is IPC uplift. For example if a new cpu has a 20% IPC improvement over an older CPU when they both run at say 3.5Ghz the newer CPU will do things 20% faster. It’s pretty cool stuff.
In the case of the CPUs you mentioned it looks like there was a 16% IPC uplift over last gen and last gen had a 18% uplift over the 5xxx series. I would be happy to have my code compile 16% + 18% faster.
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/amd-announces-zen-5-and-the-ryzen-9000-series-with-a-16-ipc-uplift-shipping-in-july/
That would be great if that was the case. However you were probably mislead by the title - that IPC increase applies only to 9XXX beasts (Zen 5), not these two AM4 refreshes. At least that’s how I understand it.
I was not in fact mislead. I actually went and found that article to help explain the concept of IPC uplift to you.
I was speaking of why new CPUs are a good thing worth being excited by in general. You were the one who said new CPUs aren’t worth being excited about in general.
As a bonus I showed how new CPUs even at the same speed have advantages. This all being said hey if you want to be a downer here go for it.
The new CPUs for AM4 socket. Aren’t we talking about AM4 as per post title?
Edit: Probably I should have made it clearer…new new AM5 ones are of course welcome and cool.