• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I wonder why EU is dragging their feet for so long, when Xitter clearly doesn’t comply with regulation.
    They’ve been giving warnings, but nothing else yet?
    Also it kind of pisses me off, when public organisations and politicians that claim to defend democracy still use Xitter.
    They are using and helping a platform that clearly has as a goal to undermine democracy.

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      17 days ago

      How about the last scrap of pretense at democratic rule of law? Just because someone you do not like is on the receiving end, you should not applaud the authoritarian government.

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        16 days ago

        The Supreme Court is upholding the rule of law. If Musk refuses to take action on the massive propaganda and disinformation campaigns that are rampant on his platform and lead to a fascist (like a literal fascist who praised the military dictatorship and openly said it’s only mistake was not to torture enough) getting elected, banning it shows that the democracy is still defensive and able to protect itself.

        We can’t let tech monopolies just ignore any democratic rule and do whatever they want.

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        16 days ago

        Man you right wingers are a very annoying bunch, always claiming censorship and loss of democracy while applauding the actual wannabe dictators doing gold medal deserving mental gymnastics to justify antidemocratic actions

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          Yes, of course. The guy advocating against censorship and pro freedom of business must be a right winger. You do know, what the real right wingers will do, when they get these instruments into their hands? If not, you will probably find out soon in Brazil.

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        16 days ago

        Care to expand on this?

        Genuinely asking how Elon Musk unilaterally defying a unanimous court order is losing the “last scrap of pretense at democratic rule of law.” Seems like more of the same old oligarchy games like it always has been.

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          16 days ago

          I can see both sides on this one I think?

          Out of curiosity, would you feel differently about this if it had been a print newsletter or physical book publisher that was printing Nazi propaganda that got shutdown because they refused to stop printing Nazi propaganda?

          If so, what’s the substantive difference? If not, are you affirming banning people from publishing books based on ideological grounds?

          Obviously banning books is bad, but obviously Nazis are bad, and that’s a hard square to circle.

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            I don’t understand your statement, printing Nazi propaganda is a crime so yeah it will be shutdown for committing a crime, doesn’t matter if in the odds day they are printing school books.

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              Printing Nazi propaganda isn’t illegal in the US.

              And I realize this isn’t in the US, obviously. But I think that the idea that the government shouldn’t be able to ban people from saying things, or compel them to say things, is so baked into the American zeitgeist (of which I am a member), that it feels wrong in a fundamental moral sense when it happens.

              It’s the old, “I don’t agree with anything that man says, but I’ll defend to the death his right to say it,” thing.

        • Faust@feddit.org
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          16 days ago
          1. It is a court order for censorship. You may not like what is said on that platform, but it is still straight up suppression of anything the government defines as dangerous. If you do not consider that a problematic move just because you agree with that government for now, you are in for a nasty surprise.
          2. If Brazil wants to shut down the service because of that: That is their right. Welcome to the same club as North Korea, China, and Iran. But what is that move with Starlink? When and where has it become acceptable to seize assets of a company because you have beef with one of its shareholders? What does this signal to other international activities in Brazil?
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            When I first learned about it, it kind of seems like school bullying or something criminal. “Give me 50000 if you want to keep operating”. It’s kind of funny, but it is also kind of sad. Anyway, the decision has it geopolitical importance.

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        16 days ago

        america has her own supreme court problems to figure out before anyone starts weeping about brazil being mean to elon fucking musk

        • Faust@feddit.org
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          16 days ago

          Because some 300 million people somewhere have problems with their courts, the rest of the world does not matter?

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              16 days ago

              What? Brazil is driving censorship but we should not care nor discuss, because whataboutism in America? Last time I checked this was lemmy.world, not lemmy.US_centric_worldview

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    Instead of creating a law. The supreme court creates precedence. So in Democratic republics the judicial branch can do as they please? No. Their whole damn courts unhinged. Apparently the whole damn judicial branch is crooked. Why does the supreme court of Brazil have to get it’s nose involved in silencing citizens on PLATFORMS!?!?!?!? JUST ARREST THE CITIZENS!!! BUT APPARENTLY THEY WANT TO ATTACK CORPORTATIONS AND LEAVE THE PROBLEMATIC CITIZENS ALONE! Throw musk in a deep pit, but do it for a damn good reason like he doesn’t pay a living wage.