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  • Yes even in death he was disgusting.
    But more seriously, why are leading democrats so eager to say this was wrong? Which of course for normal circumstances it is.
    But these are not normal circumstances, and do democratic politicians think they still can use democratic standards to debate and reason and talk the extreme right down from systemic violence against minorities, when the MAGA crowd has destroyed democracy in USA and there are no remotely fair elections?
    Democrats continue to behave as if things are normal. But they are not! And even if they were, it’s madmen like Charlie Kirk that are the reason USA has so much terrorism, and school shootings.
    Also by Charlie Kirk’s own statements, he was perfectly OK with being a shooting victim, and that some people must die for the rights of the 2nd amendment.
    It’s not disgusting, it’s poetic justice.



  • joyous imaginative freedom.

    This was what I quoted from the article.
    And yes Americans are indoctrinated to believe USA is the most free country in the world.
    When every stat shows that most other democracies have more freedom in almost every way than Americans have, and are way better democracies.

    I’m tired of your bullshit, we are in no prison of the Americans. Whatever the fuck gave you that idea? For instance France left NATO in 1966, USA never forced any allied democracy to change their government or oppress the opinion of the people, or tried to force any country into a military alliance with USA. Things that would all be common for Soviet union to do to Warsaw pact countries, that were actual vassals of the Soviet Union.
    Yes Trump pressured other NATO countries to increase military budgets, but it was always an option to just leave. That is the opposite of being a vassal, so now you try to change the subject or the wording to something else, because you know your claim of allied democracies being vassals to USA is bullshit.

    There are many things we can criticize USA for, but forcing allied democracies to be vassals of USA is not one of them.
    On the contrary, USA is leaving the international cooperation that has worked so well for everybody since WW2. Which is really sad.
    Europe and others will be more free, but despite that, losing USA as a friend and ally is a huge loss to the free world, which sadly doesn’t include USA anymore, or at least not at the moment under Trump and JD Vance, who have zero respect for the law, democracy and human rights.

    PS: Opposite to allies being in a prison of the Americans, the Americans are by far the most imprisoned nation in the world. Not even dictatorships or other authoritarian countries beat USA on imprisonment of their own population.
    This fact alone is a clear sign of USA not being a very free country, or a very good democracy.
    So with Americans having less freedom than most, goes indisputably for the literal meaning of the word.





  • Some of those things are true, or at least partially true.
    But NOTHING you state shows allied democracies are vassals of USA, and Europe is already working on a defense that doesn’t depend on NATO.
    Regarding USA being the commander for NATO forces, what other command structure would you suggest?
    But apart from that USA is unlikely to be allowed that position for much longer. Trump wanted to destroy NATO and he basically has. But all other NATO countries than USA are still allies, and there are works in progress of EU/Canada and many eastern countries like Japan and Australia building a new alliance.
    USA has chosen to go it alone, but everyone else is working on continuing international cooperation to everyone’s benefit. On trade, on climate and on defense.
    Clear proof that USA never had vassal states, but actually free allies.


  • Look at South America

    Bullshit, Venezuela is a major pain in the ass for USA, and on top of that has lots of oil, and yet USA hasn’t invaded them. Despite being ruled by an insane dictator with no public support, but under the guise of Socialism.

    Trump wanted 2% for NATO, but now most of Europe has decided to go to 3.5% - 5.0% because total independence from USA is the goal now.
    European politicians are even saying it out loud, there is no secret about it.
    Also USA is selling FEWER weapons to Europe, and American weapons stock values are declining while Europe is skyrocketing. The only thing keeping US weapons exports from plummeting totally, is that Europe is buying weapons from USA for Ukraine. While we are building our own production.

    You are delusional if you think anything you state shows that allied democracies are vassals of USA. As I stated before, we had lots of agreements on how to do things, because we were friends and allies, that does not make us vassals. Also there were clear benefits to both sides and smaller allies too under the old agreements. That’s not how it works with vassal states.
    Now USA is pulling away from these agreements, and there is cost from that on both sides.
    But still that doesn’t make anyone a practical vassal of USA.

    You show NOTHING factual to support your claim, because you have no idea what you are talking about.
    You are only parroting old communist and current Russian propaganda, that even former communist states don’t believe anymore.


  • That claim is just moronic, maybe you are just using words you don’t really know what mean. Warsaw pact countries were Soviet vassals, where Russia intervened militarily if they didn’t behave or the people demanded democracy.
    There has been no American military intervention to make democratic allies behave.
    Any NATO country is free to leave, and all western countries have democratically elected governments, and better democracy than USA.
    IDK what kind of delusion you are under, but to claim free democracies are vassals of USA is delusional.
    Currently many allies are actually politically pulling away from USA now, because USA is unreliable.
    More than half of a century of Pax Americana is at an end, but allies that used to allow USA to be the leader is not the same as being a vassal, for instance several European countries did not agree with USA on Iraq, and did not participate in the invasion. Comparing voluntary cooperation by democratically elected governments with being a vassal is so ignorant I’m kind of at a loss for words.
    USA has exited many international organizations and agreements, while these are continued by former allied participants, and many former allies are working around USA now to achieve their political goals because USA does not share those goals anymore.

    It’s particularly funny you make this claim now, after it’s proven that USA trying to pressure allies into submission clearly isn’t working, and has the direct opposite effect.
    And finally in other countries there is nothing at all like the American propaganda about being free as by far the most important goal. On the contrary it’s much more about general quality of a society for all, which despite freedom not being the main goal, has resulted in greater freedom than USA has, because freedom is recognized as a human right that must be considered in how we regulate!




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    Did you actually read what I said? Jesus being a real historic person and not being a son of the God or whatever Christians believe him to be is not mutually exclusive.

    There still isn’t any evidence of his existence either way. And believing he existed without being the son of God, kind of makes even less sense than if you were actually a Christian. Because being a delusional Christian has it’s own inherent logic.

    Believing his existence despite the lack of evidence without being a Christian doesn’t make the least bit of sense.
    It’s beyond reason, it’s like saying you believe in god, you just don’t believe he has any powers. It simply doesn’t make any sense from a rational standpoint.

    As I stated early on, it’s as naive as believing the Greek demigods were real. They have somewhat similar stories, and similar lack of evidence of being real. But you might as well say they were probably real, they just weren’t demigods.

    It’s also akin to believe some guy named Santa Claus live on the North Pole, he is just not bringing gifts every Christmas.

    You’d be kicked out of highschool debate at this point, but okay.

    Based on what? Religious fanaticism maybe? I don’t see how Christian intolerance should be a good point against me in this debate.


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    Your claim was that most of classical history has a similar lack of evidence to the lack of evidence for Jesus. Which I showed by example is decidedly false, and now you agree that Cleopatra from before Jesus in about the same area, has lots of evidence because she was significant! So we can probably agree that significant events of the time actually generally have reliable historical evidence. So basically your claim now is that Jesus wasn’t really significant!!

    Jesus was not a big name during his lifetime,

    So at what point was it decided he performed miracles and was the son of god?
    Or was that not enough to be a big name? But none the less, he was the founder of the biggest religion of all time!
    The more logical reason he wasn’t a big name at the time and place of the stories about him, is that he actually never existed.

    Of course there’s a lot of information about Cleopatra, she was married to the Consul of the Roman Empire and was the ruler of Ptolemaic Egypt.

    Of course there’s a lot of information about Jesus Christ, he performed miracles and was the son of god.
    What I was saying was that if Jesus Christ had just 1% of the evidence Cleopatra has, there would be no doubt.

    The constant special pleading about Christianity is mind boggling, always with the double standards!!

    I’m not saying that there is a lot of data but that there is some.

    Oh for Christ sake no there isn’t, rumors and hear say is not data, that’s little more than noise. The whole point I made is the lack of reliable data, of which there is none.
    People keep claiming here that there is, but nobody can show anything, because there isn’t.

    I don’t believe he had any powers or was in any way magical godly

    Then it isn’t really Jesus Christ is it? Yes there were probably a few hundred people in the area named Jesus, but NONE of them were Jesus Christ. I also know a taxi driver called Jesus, that friggin not evidence of a Jesus Christ. That you don’t believe he had magic abilities, only proves you are not entirely delusional, but you still believe without evidence what’s akin to Harry Potter once walked the train stations of England, based on a bunch of children coming straight from a Harry Potter movie saying so.


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    Wow that’s a weird way to phrase that, “because he is” looks like you claim he is real in the context of me stating there is no evidence for it.

    A way clearer way to say the same would be:
    Real or not, he is a very important person.

    The way you put it is very confusing.


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    Your obsession over this is pretty weird.

    Do you care that Israel is destroying lives in Gaza?
    Well I do, and similarly I care that false religions are destroying lives and families with superstition all over the world.
    And the only kind of religion there is, is false religion, because if it were true it would not be religion.

    Why don’t you care?