• greedytacothief@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I have lots of friends that are vegan/have been vegan, or are sympathetic to the cause. IRL I have had some wonderful conversations about veganism and the ethics of our diet. But on the Internet it’s the vegans ironically that need to get out and touch grass. It’s like there’s no nuance to any conversation, like sorry I can be Peter Singer, it’s actually kinda difficult to be that moral.

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      But on the Internet it’s the vegans ironically that need to get out and touch grass.

      I keep hearing about these crazy vegans from other folks complaining on the internet. I never actually get to meet them in the wild.

      But if I flip over to YouTube Recommended Feed I can find Liver King tier content all the fuck over the front page. Definitely try to steer clear of anything “Recommended” these days, but if I had my ear-holes getting saturated with JBP / Joe Rogan Carnivore Diet insanity 24/7, that might wear down my ability to have a polite conversation.

      Maybe that’s what other people are seeing out on the YT comments sections?

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        2 months ago

        Here on Lemmy I’ve been accused of torturing and raping animals as I’m unashamedly an omnivore. I’m a hunter as well.

        I worry about animal suffering enough that we’ve bought a small farm and hope to raise all our own meat. I’ve actually worked on factory farms and know firsthand the suffering of animals under that system.

        However, there are fanatical vegans on Lemmy that do a fantastic job of driving away those of us sympathetic to vegan ethics and morality.

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          Here on Lemmy I’ve been accused of torturing and raping animals as I’m unashamedly an omnivore

          I’m sorry to hear that. Online discourse does get extremely personal, particularly when people don’t know each other.

          I’ve actually worked on factory farms and know firsthand the suffering of animals under that system

          Well then… not to be rude but that means you’ve literally been complicit in torturing and raping animals.

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            There it is.

            So, as an ignorant teenager, cleaning chicken houses of rotten corpses and chicken shit for $5/hr: I was actually fucking those chickens? I was kid chicken raper? The steers I raised in elementary school, I suppose I fucked them as well.

            See, that’s the thing. I saw how bad it was and have worked and saved for many years so I will no longer have to participate in a system that involves industrial suffering.

            But nope, I’m totally such a raper. Fuck you and your sanctimonious bullshit. You don’t know me or my circumstances. I know plenty of Southern Baptists and Church of Christ that spew this same shit. Y’all would get along real well, if you only listened to your tones and didn’t pay attention to the words.

            Fucking fanatics can suck my fucking balls, all y’all the same.

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              So, as an ignorant teenager, cleaning chicken houses of rotten corpses and chicken shit for $5/hr: I was actually fucking those chickens? I was kid chicken raper?

              I would like to think “I saw the horrors and really learned something” would be the appropriate response, not “I saw the horrors, so now I’m immune to criticism for eating meat.”

              But I do begin to see why vegans upset you so much.

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                If you’re trying to make a point for there not being as many “crazy vegans” on the internet, well, you’re fucking it up.

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                  2 months ago

                  The zigging and zagging in your story reads like a Just So Ben Shapiro piece.

                  Next, I’m expecting to hear how you’ve got a condition that makes it ableist to mention veganism in front of you.

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                    You: Factory farming bad you are an animal rapist
                    Me: I don’t eat factory farmed animals
                    You: wow literally Ben Shapiro

                    … Sure, I’m the one with a condition.

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          Here on Lemmy I’ve been accused of torturing and raping animals

          I’ve actually worked on factory farms

          Depending on what all you did to the animals at those factory farms, you might have been torturing and raping animals. I did horseback riding for like 7 years of my life. I don’t deny I was an animal abuser. The only thing I can do about it now is never get on a horses back again. Denying I was ever doing abuse won’t help me.

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            RAPE! RAPE! MURDER!!!1!

            This bullshit doesn’t help your cause at all. I’m the rare omnivore that is actually sympathetic to moral issues of factory farmig and animal suffering.

            You need to like unfuck your head and try to turn down whatever preaching you’re listening to. That’s some bad religion that’s got ahold of you.

            You’re no different than those ‘pro-life’ whack jobs.