Schools and lawmakers are grappling with how to address a new form of peer-on-peer image-based sexual abuse that disproportionately targets girls.

  • atomicorange@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Are you OK with sexually explicit photos of children taken without their knowledge? They’re not being actively put in a sexual situation if you’re snapping photos with a hidden camera in a locker room, for example. You ok with that?

    The harm is:

    • Those photos now exist in the world and can lead to direct harm to the victim by their exposure
    • it normalizes pedophilia and creates a culture of trading images, leading to more abuse to meet demand for more images
    • The people sharing those photos learn to treat people like objects for their sexual gratification, ignoring their consent and agency. They are more likely to mistreat people they have learned to objectify.
    • your body should not be used for the profit or gratification of others without your consent. In my mind this includes taking or using your picture without your consent.
    • FishFace@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Are you OK with sexually explicit photos of children taken without their knowledge? They’re not being actively put in a sexual situation if you’re snapping photos with a hidden camera in a locker room, for example. You ok with that?

      No, but the harm certainly is not the same as CSAM and it should not be treated the same.

      • it normalizes pedophilia and creates a culture of trading images, leading to more abuse to meet demand for more images
      • The people sharing those photos learn to treat people like objects for their sexual gratification, ignoring their consent and agency. They are more likely to mistreat people they have learned to objectify.

      as far as I know there is no good evidence that this is the case and is a big controversy in the topic of fake child porn, i.e. whether it leads to more child abuse (encouraging paedophiles) or less (gives them a safe outlet) or no change.

      your body should not be used for the profit or gratification of others without your consent. In my mind this includes taking or using your picture without your consent.

      If someone fantasises about me without my consent I do not give a shit, and I don’t think there’s any justification for it. I would give a shit if it affected me somehow (this is your first bullet point, but for a different situation, to be clear) but that’s different.

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        1 day ago

        Hm. I wasn’t expecting the pro-child porn argument. All I can say is that’s absolutely legally and morally CSAM, and you’re fuckin nasty. Oof. Not really gonna bother with the rest because, well, yikes.

        • FishFace@lemmy.world
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          21 hours ago

          Hey, it’s OK to say you just don’t have any counter-argument instead of making blatantly false characterisations.