Recently, I wrote an article about my journey in learning about robots.txt and its implications on the data rights in regards to what I write in my blog. I was confident that I wanted to ban all the crawlers from my website. Turned out there was an unintended consequence that I did not account for. My LinkedIn posts became broken Ever since I changed my robots.txt file, I started seeing that my LinkedIn posts no longer had the preview of the article available. I was not sure what the issue was initially, since before then it used to work just fine. In addition to that, I have noticed that LinkedIn’s algorithm has started serving my posts to fewer and fewer connections. I was a bit confused by the issue, thinking that it might have been a temporary problem. But over the next two weeks the missing post previews did not appear.
  • General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    16 hours ago

    Googlebot if enabled won’t just list you for search, but will also scrape your contents for Google’s AI.

    False.

        • ell1e@leminal.spaceEnglish
          3·
          12 hours ago

          So what’s the quote from the documentation that backs up your claim? The line “perform other product specific crawls” seems extremely vague by design.

          • General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            12 hours ago

            I’m not really sure what you are asking here. Did you notice that you can scroll down and see a list of their crawlers?

            • ell1e@leminal.spaceEnglish
              2·
              10 hours ago

              Nothing on this page seems to contradict the article. But if I simply missed the part that does, I’d be happy to learn.

              • General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                8 hours ago

                You look up what Googlebot does. No AI.

                You want to know what crawlers do AI? Just search for “AI”, or “training”, or some such, or skim through. It’s not long. Google-Extended collects training data. Note that Google-Extended is explicitly not used to rank pages.

                Did that help?

                • ell1e@leminal.spaceEnglish
                  2·
                  2 hours ago

                  You look up what Googlebot does. No AI.

                  The page seems written to perhaps suggest it but doesn’t explicitly say the other bots can’t feed into some other sort of AI training. It would be in Google’s interest to mislead the users here.

                  Edit: I found a quote where it says Googlebot does both in one: “Google-Extended doesn’t have a separate HTTP request user agent string. Crawling is done with existing Google user agent […]” and I guess Cloudflare doesn’t trust Google to abide by the access controls. That seems sensible to me.

    • cecilkorik@lemmy.caEnglish
      21·
      15 hours ago

      Absolutely true. They’ll buy the data they want from some shitty crawler running from some data broker in some far-flung and lawless part of the world, hallucinate the actual source, and pretend they had no idea their “data partner” wasn’t respecting robots.txt if they have to, which they won’t ever have to do because it’s literally impossible to detect and prove and realistically unenforceable.

      This is a company that removed it’s company motto of “Don’t be evil” because it found it too “limiting”. Don’t be naive.

      • General_Effort@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        14 hours ago

        That’s very different from what I called false.

        What you describe may happen, but probably not as much as you think. Much of that stuff is just not that valuable. Some personal, colloquial writing is necessary, but Google already pays Reddit. Other stuff is better obtained from torrents or shadow libraries like Anna’s Archive.