A federal Drug Enforcement Administration agent on a Chicago area task force used Palos Heights Detective Todd Hutchinson’s login credentials to perform unauthorized searches this past January. Group chat screenshots obtained via public records request show the detective and the feds discussing the incident.
But if they did criminalise my favourite hobby, and they had evidence that I’m continuing to do that hobby in plain sight, they see me doing it every day……I’d expect them to come get me. That makes sense. It makes no sense to have that technology there to be used to find some crimes but not others.
I see what you’re saying. You’re not talking about “making sense” in an ethical or social well-being sense, you mean it’s literally confusing why the technology wouldn’t be used for all kinds of crimes, given that it already exists - irrespective of whether the technology should be used. Is that right? I think you’re getting downvoted because it kinda sounds like you’re saying this is all a good idea when you say it “makes sense”. Unfortunate English ambiguities. But you’re saying, like, sure it’s dystopian and creepy and wrong, but why wouldn’t the creepy dystopia use the tech for all cases then rather than just some? That’s a good question. I think because there is legitimately some understanding of the dangers of using these powerful tools willy-nilly. While people aren’t perfect angels, they also aren’t perfect devils either. Another factor is that there is some pressure to appear not to be overly heavy-handed with these tools - as we see in those chats, they knew it made them look bad for this to get out.
And the final most pessimistic factor is that this Flock company almost certainly charges per seat, so giving direct usernames and logins to every officer or even every department is probably absurdly expensive. Companies (in this case the police) will often try to limit their license seats to as few people as possible and then just funnel as much different people’s work through that one person’s license as they can.
But you’re saying, like, sure it’s dystopian and creepy and wrong, but why wouldn’t the creepy dystopia use the tech for all cases then rather than just some?
I’m also saying it’s not really any more creepy or dystopian than say … speed cameras. They’re there to catch people that break the law. If these cameras are already used to catch people breaking some laws, the logic of “well they should only be allowed to catch people who break these specific laws, but not these other laws” doesn’t make any sense.
If you know the license plate of a car of a wanted murderer, and the FLOCK camera system recognises that number plate, why on earth would anyone be against the FLOCK camera system arbitrarily not being allowed to be used to catch that murderer? Like what is the reasoning behind that train of thought?
But if they did criminalise my favourite hobby, and they had evidence that I’m continuing to do that hobby in plain sight, they see me doing it every day……I’d expect them to come get me. That makes sense. It makes no sense to have that technology there to be used to find some crimes but not others.
I see what you’re saying. You’re not talking about “making sense” in an ethical or social well-being sense, you mean it’s literally confusing why the technology wouldn’t be used for all kinds of crimes, given that it already exists - irrespective of whether the technology should be used. Is that right? I think you’re getting downvoted because it kinda sounds like you’re saying this is all a good idea when you say it “makes sense”. Unfortunate English ambiguities. But you’re saying, like, sure it’s dystopian and creepy and wrong, but why wouldn’t the creepy dystopia use the tech for all cases then rather than just some? That’s a good question. I think because there is legitimately some understanding of the dangers of using these powerful tools willy-nilly. While people aren’t perfect angels, they also aren’t perfect devils either. Another factor is that there is some pressure to appear not to be overly heavy-handed with these tools - as we see in those chats, they knew it made them look bad for this to get out.
And the final most pessimistic factor is that this Flock company almost certainly charges per seat, so giving direct usernames and logins to every officer or even every department is probably absurdly expensive. Companies (in this case the police) will often try to limit their license seats to as few people as possible and then just funnel as much different people’s work through that one person’s license as they can.
I’m also saying it’s not really any more creepy or dystopian than say … speed cameras. They’re there to catch people that break the law. If these cameras are already used to catch people breaking some laws, the logic of “well they should only be allowed to catch people who break these specific laws, but not these other laws” doesn’t make any sense.
If you know the license plate of a car of a wanted murderer, and the FLOCK camera system recognises that number plate, why on earth would anyone be against the FLOCK camera system arbitrarily not being allowed to be used to catch that murderer? Like what is the reasoning behind that train of thought?