In my old age I’ve mostly given up trying to convince anyone of anything. Most people do not care to find the truth, they care about what pumps their bags. Some people go as far as to believe that perception is reality and that truth is a construction. I hope there’s a special place in hell for those people.
  • vermaterc@lemmy.ml
    23·
    7 hours ago

    AI is just an even higher level of abstraction. Just like we’ve replaced assembly with C (so we won’t need to know how processors work internally), and then C with some higher-level languages (so we could stop care about allocating memory that much), now we are replacing those higher-level languages with natural language (to stop wasting time on learning syntax of frameworks).

    Does it mean programming jobs are obsolete? Of course not. Because programming was never about writing code. It has always been about translating requirements into actual software solutions.

    • LaggyKar@programming.dev
      9·
      6 hours ago

      It’s not though. Programming languages, like assembly before them, are deterministic. If you run the same C code again the same environment, it will do the same thing, and altering the code will alter the behaviour correspondingly. It’s possible to reason about it. The same does not apply to LLMs. You can’t reason about their behavior, when means you can’t build anything non-trivial with them. All that is mentioned in the article.

      • vermaterc@lemmy.ml
        11·
        5 hours ago

        Software you create with LLMs is deterministic, because it is the same code as you produce manually. The process of creating it is maybe not, but it is a task of a programmer to review it before publishing it.

        • LaggyKar@programming.dev
          3·
          2 hours ago

          but it is a task of a programmer to review it before publishing it.

          By contrast however, the programmer does not generally need to review the machine code produced by their compiler when coding in C.

        • TehPers@beehaw.orgEnglish
          3·
          4 hours ago

          it is the same code as you produce manually.

          LLMs do not create the same code that I would, nor do they produce code at the same level that I would. Additionally, LLMs are not deterministic (normally - there are ways to manually seed some but it’s rare). Determinism has a very specific meaning. Compilers supporting reproducible builds are deterministic. LLMs producing a different output each time are not.

          it is a task of a programmer to review it before publishing it.

          Tell that to my coworkers. It’s honestly insulting the code I have to review and contribute to. Having used these tools myself, I’m better off writing the code myself.

  • underscores@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    23 hours ago

    Surprised to hear this from George Hotz, for some reason I thought he’d be in the AI shill camp given that whole Twitter ordeal in the past.