owning “imagination” or ideas, images or even melodies is a new idea for humanity. For most of our history people wouldn’t even think of owning an idea and profiting from its reproduction.
If I paint a study of Van Gogh’s Starry Night, even though I painted it it’s NOT my art. Trying to sell a reproduction without acknowledgment that I’m not the original artist is forgery and fraud.
If I paint a study of Van Gogh’s Starry Night, even though I painted it it’s NOT my art. Trying to sell a reproduction without acknowledgment that I’m not the original artist is forgery and fraud.
you’re still looking at art through the lens (window, frame) of today, my comment was to remind that this proprietary way of seeing art wasn’t always the norm. “Original artist” is itself a product of the market. There were no fraudsters, only artisans making images.
Van Gogh is an interesting example, whose paintings wasn’t worth a cent during his life. Others, later on, profited from his work.
Art world itself is full of absurd examples working on these ideas. (Latest must be the Comedian.
“history” has a clear definition and implies writing… i would have written but apparently my understanding is considered “old conception” now ☞
The use of symbols, marks, and images appears very early among humans, but the earliest known writing systems appeared c. 5,200 years ago. It took thousands of years for writing systems to be widely adopted, with writing having spread to almost all cultures by the 19th century. The end of prehistory therefore came at different times in different places, and the term is less often used in discussing societies where prehistory ended relatively recently. It is based on an old conception of history that without written records there could be no history.
Copyright as an idea has only really be around since the late 1400s. The intial purpose of copyright was to control which information can be given to the public. It’s now being used by corporations to maintain control over the creative arts.
Sure, but that’s not the only way people have guarded ideas.
Secret societies, artisan guilds that only taught it’s members and on occasion killed people who find out their secrets, professions taught only to the direct student.
Just because the formal idea of something was recorded doesn’t mean it wasnt around before.
As people we are constantly hoarding knowledge and ideas to benefit is individually or as a tribe.
owning “imagination” or ideas, images or even melodies is a new idea for humanity. For most of our history people wouldn’t even think of owning an idea and profiting from its reproduction.
If I paint a study of Van Gogh’s Starry Night, even though I painted it it’s NOT my art. Trying to sell a reproduction without acknowledgment that I’m not the original artist is forgery and fraud.
So the images in the book were intentional recreations of existing, discrete pieces of art?
you’re still looking at art through the lens (window, frame) of today, my comment was to remind that this proprietary way of seeing art wasn’t always the norm. “Original artist” is itself a product of the market. There were no fraudsters, only artisans making images.
Van Gogh is an interesting example, whose paintings wasn’t worth a cent during his life. Others, later on, profited from his work.
Art world itself is full of absurd examples working on these ideas. (Latest must be the Comedian.
What do you mean by “most of our history” , like in a timeframe sense ?
“history” has a clear definition and implies writing… i would have written but apparently my understanding is considered “old conception” now ☞
Copyright as an idea has only really be around since the late 1400s. The intial purpose of copyright was to control which information can be given to the public. It’s now being used by corporations to maintain control over the creative arts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright#Early_developments
Sure, but that’s not the only way people have guarded ideas.
Secret societies, artisan guilds that only taught it’s members and on occasion killed people who find out their secrets, professions taught only to the direct student.
Just because the formal idea of something was recorded doesn’t mean it wasnt around before.
As people we are constantly hoarding knowledge and ideas to benefit is individually or as a tribe.
rather ☞ As people we are constantly sharing knowledge and ideas to benefit collectively