The issues could cascade beyond the design. The auto manufacturing industry operates on strict production schedules. Though it builds in time to validate and test whatever new features come in each new model, the sudden intro of a design change late in the process could throw off the delicate timetable.
FFS, it’s a bloody door handle, not full self driving tech. Author is full of BS.
A lot of upvotes here, and I think they’re ignoring how much is involved in production pipelines and the overhead of sourcing suppliers. That said, Musk has a habit of throwing in last minute changes and the company manages to handle those but much like self driving they ship late
Yeah let’s see, if the handle would have to be a different shape, they may need a different cutout for the door, different handle moulds, different mechanical parts, updated electronics… does anyone have a fucking clue how difficult it is to program one of those robotic arms? How expensive new moulds are? Any other potential knock-on effects this may have on the internal design?
People with the mentality of ‘it’s just a small plug at the bottom of the pool, how bad could it possibly be if we removed it’
They only have to redesign a new door, not an entire car.
Sure, it isn’t as easy adding a dent so you can grab the handle. But it is a lot easier and cheaper than designing a new door, which they do for every new model.
By the time you’re deciding to make all those potential changes, now the question is, if we already have to reprogram the robots, and get new moulds, do we want to make any other changes on this door at the same time, so that we don’t have twice the downtime to make the 2 changes?
You do not know or believe how much shit has to be pipelined to get a simple change on a car design going on the market. If you have knowledge about computers, you quickly notice that the hardware and software running in a car are OLD. I’ve seen cars sold as new with processors so old, they are “no longer recommended for new designs”. This is because every single thing has to be tested and approved to death in a car. Sometimes several times over.
Government’s also tend to introduce grace periods. They announced that they are going to introduce a law and that that law will go into effect on x date. The manufacturing now has plenty of time to sell the current run of vehicles and then alter the design well ahead of the law coming into effect.
You don’t just introduce a law and then implement it the following day. Well Trump does but no body else does.
FFS, it’s a bloody door handle, not full self driving tech. Author is full of BS.
A lot of upvotes here, and I think they’re ignoring how much is involved in production pipelines and the overhead of sourcing suppliers. That said, Musk has a habit of throwing in last minute changes and the company manages to handle those but much like self driving they ship late
Yeah let’s see, if the handle would have to be a different shape, they may need a different cutout for the door, different handle moulds, different mechanical parts, updated electronics… does anyone have a fucking clue how difficult it is to program one of those robotic arms? How expensive new moulds are? Any other potential knock-on effects this may have on the internal design?
People with the mentality of ‘it’s just a small plug at the bottom of the pool, how bad could it possibly be if we removed it’
They only have to redesign a new door, not an entire car.
Sure, it isn’t as easy adding a dent so you can grab the handle. But it is a lot easier and cheaper than designing a new door, which they do for every new model.
By the time you’re deciding to make all those potential changes, now the question is, if we already have to reprogram the robots, and get new moulds, do we want to make any other changes on this door at the same time, so that we don’t have twice the downtime to make the 2 changes?
You do not know or believe how much shit has to be pipelined to get a simple change on a car design going on the market. If you have knowledge about computers, you quickly notice that the hardware and software running in a car are OLD. I’ve seen cars sold as new with processors so old, they are “no longer recommended for new designs”. This is because every single thing has to be tested and approved to death in a car. Sometimes several times over.
This is tesla though, how much testing do they actually do before passing it to customers for free QA?
The part that the law demands has probably been tested. But I think the US is less stringent with that than our EU.
Government’s also tend to introduce grace periods. They announced that they are going to introduce a law and that that law will go into effect on x date. The manufacturing now has plenty of time to sell the current run of vehicles and then alter the design well ahead of the law coming into effect.
You don’t just introduce a law and then implement it the following day. Well Trump does but no body else does.