• AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah, this is a point espoused by people who see themselves as wolves, but end up finding out they are actually pigs.

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        3 months ago

        Because he distributed land he took from pigs to his wolf friends. Even if you consider it as an analogy, you’re dehumanizing the pigs.

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        3 months ago

        If you’re waiting for a powerful military force to end capitalism and allocate resources as their leader wishes, that’s not anarchy. That’s just new management.

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    3 months ago

    So what you’re saying is that it’s okay for me to just walk into someone’s home, murder the entire family and just live there now because I’m the most violent of all?

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    3 months ago

    While I find anarchist ideas intriguing, I don’t like how the comic seems to encourage a violent takeover of property like this.

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      3 months ago

      yep. classic “the bad guy is actually good bc i drew him as a cool furry”

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    Yeah, down with the violence of the state! Although, to prevent bad actors and armed gangs we do need to have some sort of militia to protect the vulnerable from the greedy and cruel, human nature being what it is. And to prevent said militia from turning into the very thing it was supposed to protect us from, we need some sort of oversight, preferably from a democratically elected body, that tells the militia how to act and prevent them from violating the rights of the people. Oh wait I just reinvented violence of the state hehe.

    People in Somalia hearing that America has a 1.8% homelessness rate: “wow. Things are really just as bad over there.”

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      That’s not what anarchists refer to as a state.

      A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

      If the whole constituency of the community that the militia protects is involved in controlling that militia, that’s not state violence anymore.

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        A common anarchist definition of the state is: The institutionized power structure which alienates people from the businesses of their daily lives.

        So not the government at all, right? Because they aren’t responsible for hardly any alienating in my experience. I would attribute any alienating I feel to corporations.

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          What would happen to those corporations without the government enforcing their property? Have you ever tried to seize a McDonalds to distribute food to the homeless?

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            People have property rights too. I wouldn’t want someone seizing the food in my fridge to feed the homeless. Property rights are a good thing actually. The problem isn’t the government “protecting” corporations. It’s that wealth grants a greater degree of control over government due to corruption.

            Ultimately though it’s a pointless discussion since anarchists are never going to see what they envision implemented beyond weirdo hippie commune towns because their ideas don’t scale up.

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              I wouldn’t want anyone to seize the food in your fridge. Unless with “seize” you mean “fill up unprompted” because people know you need to eat and that’s enough reason to give you food, and maybe you’re busy all the time with constructing bridges or whatnot so they also cook for you.

              And while corruption is an issue, it’s not the only issue: The very act of having lots of capital to throw around allows companies to direct policy, you e.g. don’t need to grease hands to get different municipalities to overbid each other with tax breaks for your new fidget spinner factory. The BS is inherent in the system.

              As to scaling: Possibly. Possibly not. I’d argue that it can’t yet be envisioned, not even by anarchists themselves (and we’re aware of that, hence all the gradualism)… but as you acknowledged that it can work in the small, what happens if all the municipalities we have turn into hippie communes? Would they elect, among themselves, an Emperor Commune to rule over them? I don’t think so. They’d find ways to cooperate at eye level. How that will look in detail, as said, I have no idea, it’s probably going to involve federation and plenty of subsidiarity.

              Practically, right now, it makes no difference as most of us are not living in hippie commune towns. First step would be to get there, then we can think about luxury gay space anarchism.