• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    I wondered if all the sane Americans did a mass exodus to Canada, Europe, UK, Australia etc, what effect that would have

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      It’s already happening, there’s been a deluge of affluent people leaving the US.

      We’re still at the stage where it takes considerable privilege to just leave everything behind and pay the exit extortion (40% of all your shit).

      Once things get worse and people have nothing to leave behind you’ll start seeing the engineers/doctors escaping.

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      4 hours ago

      A lot of us would need financial sponsorship. So there’d be a literal financial drain on those economies.

      I still would like to sign up.

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        Not if you stayed, then it’s an investment. Money doesn’t just disappear when goes to poor people, they use it to buy things like food and stuff. It would only be a financial drain if you were sending that money back home.

        The North American mind cannot comprehend the benefits of supporting the poor.

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          Perhaps strain would be a better word than drain - it would still be a short-mid term financial burden to take even a tiny fraction of the sane population from the US, it’s a big country. Sure would be nice if it could be arranged though…

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          I get that, the initial investment would be pretty significant.

          I’m not against it of course, I just think it’s necessary to understand the risks of any gamble.

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      3 hours ago

      Have you looked into what it takes to get a permanent visa to one of those countries? It’s not easy.

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          It is that hard, I’ve looked. You typically need to rank highly on a skill list AND have a relatively well-paying job offer. And if you think it’s hard interviewing in your own country, it’s far worse interviewing outside of it.

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          You have to earn over something like 100k+ for the US to tax you. Salaries are lower here.

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          You still have to file, but you don’t need to pay taxes unless you’re earning enough that the visa won’t be a problem.

          But, like, if you close everything out and never go back…

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              2 hours ago

              But then what?

              Is a foreign government going to extradite you for missing paperwork and no outstanding tax debts (especially because everyone else thinks it’s nuts that we require nonresident citizens to file taxes)? I guess it’s possible, but it strikes me as very unlikely.

              But if you’re still financially attached to the US/likely to visit, they’ve got some power over you.

              I’m not a lawyer or an accountant (obviously. This is not best practices)

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                Why would that strike you as unlikely? It’s extremely likely because most countries that people would want to flee to already have extradition agreements with the US.

                All the US has to do is declare you a fugitive and those countries will pick you up and ship you back.

                Especially with how petty this administration has been.