• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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      22 hours ago

      You actually turned off geminis ability to serve YOU. You never turned off Gemini itself. Google won’t allow that. It’s still running in the background send your data to Google and its advertising partners. Google has publicly stated this is the intended design and they will not allow turning that off.

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          16 hours ago

          I don’t have to show you. Google, the people who made the fucking OS, told you that’s how this works!

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            15 hours ago

            No. They provided me a nice little button that allows me to disable Gemini, and they have allowed me to opt out of any usage. So again. Show me that it is still active after I have disabled it.

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              4 hours ago

              Let’s say I install a button on your car that flips from “broken” to “fixed” my itself. Anytime you complain something is wrong, I flip that switch to “fixed.” That doesn’t change anything. The switch just tells other things to do something. It doesn’t enforce anything. It’s basically telling Google whether you want it or not, not actually obeying you.

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              8 hours ago

              I was curious so I searched. This is the best info I could find.

              https://proton.me/blog/turn-off-gemini-on-android

              Proton claims that even if you turn everything off, it will still watch in the background because Google is replacing assistant with Gemini. That still hasn’t happened on my phone. I can still use the regular Google assistant, but I feel like I’m not smart enough to evaluate the claims to know whether it is really running on my phone or not.

              Proton also has a profit motive in making people upset with Google, so I don’t know.

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                4 hours ago

                It’s true profit can benefit from people being mad at Google but abandoning Google services doesn’t automatically make you a proton user either.

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      24 hours ago

      I’ve lost features that used to work without Gemini, but I believe it is disabled on both my Pixel 7 Pro and the Pixel 8 I have access to.

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        22 hours ago

        Nope, it’s still running in the background. You just turned off its ability to interact with you but can and does still interact with others.

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              17 hours ago

              Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me either way. There IS a lot of telemetry and other BS that is definitely still on my phone, included in OS updates, and not uninstallable (I can “uninstall updates”, but that would also give me back any security issues). But, I don’t think that it is Gemini, or at least predates that naming convention.

              To get free of Google telemetry, I’d have to install a non-Google ROM, and I haven’t ever tried that.

              Telemetry certainly can be abused, and Google should be legally (by regulation) required to provide a simple opt-out. BUT, telemetry really is a fairly normal thing to include in “web-scale” deployments and is primarily used to discover issues that have escaped into production without affecting a testing environment–or, at least, that what the telemetry systems I’ve interacted with as an software developer were for. So, I’m not too worried about non-personalized data collection.