• korendian@lemmy.zip
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    3 hours ago

    I just explained how the things you claim don’t make sense, do in fact make sense. Saying “this does not make sense” implies you don’t understand it. I have seen plenty of AI slop, and this is not it.

    You didn’t use the term “bloom filter”, the diagram did. I know what it is, and it makes perfect sense in the context, so it’s really weird that you would claim it doesn’t. The fancy words I was referring to was “predicate function” and “asymmetrical”. Both are jargon words/phrases that don’t add anything to your statement as far as illuminating your point, but make you sound smart.

    The thing to me that is not really amusing at all, but very annoying, is when someone has experience in a technical field, but then think that experience makes them an expert in every other field that might be tangentially related, and uses that assumption to pedantically (and often erroneously) dissect and dismiss the work of others.

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      Let me ask you this tho. When you say “do in fact make sense”. Are you basing it that in the context of what you think this diagram is saying? Or do you mean “do in fact make sense” in the context of knowing how such an algorithm would be constructed?

      You still keep missing my points. And they aren’t difficult points either. The fancy jargon words were a basic ass description of what a bloom filter does. So you’re kinda making my argument, which is funny for reasons I’m sure won’t be appreciated.

      I’m also not tangentially an expert, for fucks sake. I’m the kind who’s day job is to design simpler things than what this diagram is trying to “explain”, and telling you, that it comes across as if made by with a toddler’s understanding. I also didn’t say this was 100% guaranteed to be LLM, I said it smelled like it. I have suggested other possible explanations: stupidity, incompetence, and even a mental stroke.

      Your take on being tangentially an expert might be a woosh moment

      I’m also out of shits to give at this point. Literally.

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        2 hours ago

        Do me a favor here, as a self proclaimed expert. Define a bloom filter, and then explain to me, a stupid pleb, why it would not work in this context. Cause from everything I have read on them, the description in this diagram is literally what it is used for.

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          You still think that’s a relevant point? Did I also not point out to what extent it does make sense in that context, but still why it is weird, and why an LLM might do that weird thing, but a human wouldn’t?

          Maybe start at the beginning, and read again what I wrote. This time, do it with an assumption that I know what I’m talking about? Also, since you’re already learning stuff. Read about how LLMs and transformers work. Maybe that might help. I don’t know. Either way, fine by me. Fingers crossed you figure it out.

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            2 hours ago

            All I am literally asking is “why doesn’t this make sense”, and your response is “well you see, I’m an expert, so trust me bro”. Fuck off.

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              Nah. You mistook my “these are the parts that really don’t make sense for a human to make”, with “i don’t understand the subject, or what this complex concept can mean”.

              If you don’t see the difference, you’re just going in a loop of trying to argue the wrong point. I was hoping to save you the trouble of “you don’t get it” line, by saying “trust me, I do get it, I’m a god damn expert”.

              I’m happy to indulge in explaining things to people who want to learn something. I happily fuck with people who seem disingenuous to that goal. If I was wrong and you genuinely meant to ask “why doesnt this make sense”, then I’m sorry. I misread your intentions, and I’ll keep it in mind.

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                I’m done with this circular argument. Let me know when you want to actually prove you know what the fuck you’re talking about by getting into the specifics of the mechanics of the diagram that are illogical, in detail as opposed to vague generalities. Why would someone not apply a bloom filter to filter out posts you’ve already seen? Why would you not use connecting lines to show the aspects that are impacted by the user? You continue to refuse to get specific, and just keep going back to “trust me bro”. If that’s all you plan on returning to, let me know so I can stop wasting my time here.

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            2 hours ago

            Ah yes, I’m sure once I understand how something irrelevant to this diagrams functionality works, I will then see why you’re right… I will take your refusal to simply define the thing you are critiquing and explain it a bit more as a concession that you’re actually full of shit.

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                Lol, just keep dodging the questions, mr expert senior dev. Really convincing me of your expertise. 💩

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                  You want me to explain the bloom filter? So that you can say “see, I told you it makes sense to use as a memory efficient guaranteed no false negative checks on if a user has seen a video before. Dumbass”.

                  Then I’d reply something like “yeah, I, know… The point isn’t whether or not bloom filters can make sense here… What’s being discussed is whether or not this was generated by a human or LLM… That, even if someone was making a diagram, of a system, where bloom filters was used, for the case of checking if you’ve already seen a video… It would still be weird to present it in the way it is presented in the diagram, for a human, but not so weird for an LLM, if you consider how LLMs work by associated concepts, where a ‘creator filter’ and ‘bloom filter’ are linguistically more connected, and explains why they are used similarly in the diagram, even though the latter is hardly considered a filter by anyone who has used one, not to mention that the actual ‘filter’ here would be the concept of ‘not/seen before’… and again, who’d want to give a shit about which data structure is used to most space-efficiently perform that evaluation… for fucks sake”

                  Then, you’ll be all non sequitur and accuse me of some ad hominem like “you use big words on purpose to seem smart, but you are dumb”.