• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 days ago

    Cops almost never stop crimes. Even when they rarely do their job correctly they just show up afterwards to arrest people. Thats also how it should be, but recently it seems like politicians are hellbent on making them “prevent” crimes before they happen which requires lots of privacy invasion.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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      I’ve seen police commit crimes and breach statutory regulations an order of magnitude more than I’ve seen other people do so… and they’re, what, 1% of the population? If that? … Which means on average they’re each generating about 1000 times more crime than each member of the public are, and not catching the culprits, let alone preventing it. They’re causing it, and letting the perpetrators get away with it, because they are the perpetrators.

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      Cops, paramedics, and fight fighters are all inherently reactive forces. While more could be done for them to be proactive outside of the fire department most of those proactive measures are outside of their perview.

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        I’d love frequent visits from the fire service, to check up on eliminating fire hazards around my home, making sure I have the correct fire extinguishing equipment and know how to use it, checking fire detectors and alarms, etc.

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      Even if cops acted the way we thought they did when we were kids, it’s nearly impossible to stop/prevent crime unless they were already there beforehand. Security guards prevent more crime than cops.

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      Close. Politicians are hellbent on making them invade privacy, using “preventing” crimes before they happen as a pretext.

      • nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org
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        2 days ago

        Also, petty crimes can be prevented without surveilence by robust social safety nets.

        Fascism and grift (or chronic violence and lying crimes), including in the workplace, have to be manually overthrown by tolerant in-group unity.