the number of people that actually require an Adobe product is miniscule compared to the number of PC users, so it’s an extreme edge case
It is not miniscule.
It’s called an example.
Alternatives like…exist
Right so someone should uproot their entire workflow to use something inferior. Ok. People don’t shell out hundreds of dollars per year for fun.
Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available?
Hell, even Arch has options for graphical package managers
Every distro has “options” for everything. If they don’t come packaged with the installer then what point do they serve? How are you going to install it? You’re answering your own questions and yet still unable to understand what the problem is.
I have Nobara installed on another desktop. I forget what the package manager GUI on that one is called, but it was very similarly easy to use
Nobara is the one I was referring to with multiple package managers that were completely unintuitive, had constant update notifications, and eventually broke my install.
It is miniscule, objectively. Generously, less than 2% of personal computer users have an Adobe license. The alternatives aren’t inferior, in fact in some cases (blender, DaVinci Resolve), the “alternative” I listed is actually the industry standard used instead of the comparable Adobe product. There are multiple ways to make it easier to transition away from Adobe products, and you keep just conveniently ignoring the fact that cloud versions of most Adobe products are available. It’s a bad example, and does nothing for the argument you’re trying to make.
Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available? You originally claimed there were distros where a graphical package manager wasn’t an option. Are you walking that back now, or can you actually substantiate that claim?
Can you share some distros intended for desktop use that don’t come with a graphical package manager?
I’m sorry you found Nobara’s package management tools confusing. Is that the experience you’re basing this whole opinion on?
If it was “objective” you could point to a number. “Miniscule” is simply not an objective word. Lying again. 2% is not miniscule.
The alternatives aren’t inferior
If they weren’t inferior no one would be paying hundreds of dollars a month for Adobe.
DaVinci Resolve
LOL have you ever tried to install this on Linux? It’s an absolute nightmare. But it is a great example of yet another piece of software that’s not installable from a package manager so thanks for elaborating on my point.
Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available?
We’ve already had this discussion…
Can you share some distros intended for desktop use that don’t come with a graphical package manager?
Is Arch not intended for desktop use?
Is that the experience you’re basing this whole opinion on?
So you’re reduced to playing semantic games and trying to claim I’m a liar. You’re continuing to mischaracterize the difficulty involved in installing things on a Linux system. You’re evidently walking back your claim that there are distros/package managers that lack a graphical package manager. Your only example of a desktop distro lacking a graphical package manager out of the box (but still has the ability to install one) is Arch, a niche distro intended for advanced users with Linux experience. And you continue to stubbornly refuse to elaborate any of your points unless I pull it out of you.
Suffice it to say, I’m not convinced. Have a great day, I’m no longer taking part in this exhausting conversation.
So you’re reduced to playing semantic games and trying to claim I’m a liar.
I’m not playing games. It’s not an objective word. You’re making shit up.
You’re continuing to mischaracterize the difficulty involved in installing things on a Linux system.
You’re evidently walking back your claim that there are distros/package managers that lack a graphical package manager.
Brother, you already answered your own question in the same comment where you asked for it. I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.
And you continue to stubbornly refuse to elaborate any of your points unless I pull it out of you.
You’ve already demonstrated in your own comments what I said previously: You already know what the issues are, you just refuse to acknowledge them as issues.
Right so someone should uproot their entire workflow to use something inferior. Ok. People don’t shell out hundreds of dollars per year for fun.
Every distro has “options” for everything. If they don’t come packaged with the installer then what point do they serve? How are you going to install it? You’re answering your own questions and yet still unable to understand what the problem is.
Nobara is the one I was referring to with multiple package managers that were completely unintuitive, had constant update notifications, and eventually broke my install.
It is miniscule, objectively. Generously, less than 2% of personal computer users have an Adobe license. The alternatives aren’t inferior, in fact in some cases (blender, DaVinci Resolve), the “alternative” I listed is actually the industry standard used instead of the comparable Adobe product. There are multiple ways to make it easier to transition away from Adobe products, and you keep just conveniently ignoring the fact that cloud versions of most Adobe products are available. It’s a bad example, and does nothing for the argument you’re trying to make.
Can you share some distros/package managers that don’t have a GUI available? You originally claimed there were distros where a graphical package manager wasn’t an option. Are you walking that back now, or can you actually substantiate that claim?
Can you share some distros intended for desktop use that don’t come with a graphical package manager?
I’m sorry you found Nobara’s package management tools confusing. Is that the experience you’re basing this whole opinion on?
If it was “objective” you could point to a number. “Miniscule” is simply not an objective word. Lying again. 2% is not miniscule.
If they weren’t inferior no one would be paying hundreds of dollars a month for Adobe.
LOL have you ever tried to install this on Linux? It’s an absolute nightmare. But it is a great example of yet another piece of software that’s not installable from a package manager so thanks for elaborating on my point.
We’ve already had this discussion…
Is Arch not intended for desktop use?
No.
So you’re reduced to playing semantic games and trying to claim I’m a liar. You’re continuing to mischaracterize the difficulty involved in installing things on a Linux system. You’re evidently walking back your claim that there are distros/package managers that lack a graphical package manager. Your only example of a desktop distro lacking a graphical package manager out of the box (but still has the ability to install one) is Arch, a niche distro intended for advanced users with Linux experience. And you continue to stubbornly refuse to elaborate any of your points unless I pull it out of you.
Suffice it to say, I’m not convinced. Have a great day, I’m no longer taking part in this exhausting conversation.
I’m not playing games. It’s not an objective word. You’re making shit up.
You’re continuing to mischaracterize the difficulty involved in installing things on a Linux system.
Brother, you already answered your own question in the same comment where you asked for it. I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.
You’ve already demonstrated in your own comments what I said previously: You already know what the issues are, you just refuse to acknowledge them as issues.