Are you saying that if you see someone eating a Nestlé product, you just punch them in the face? Or call them names? Or, if it’s a family member/friend, you immediately cut them off? Because they should’ve done their research?
I’m not punching anyone or calling them names. I’m judging them and tell them that their actions leave a certain impression. And yes, if somebody knowingly buys nestle, I won’t value their opinion on sustainable products or supply nets or listen to them when it comes to that topic 🤷. Tough shit. If you wear a badge you might better check what it represents.
You can always assume people do stuff knowingly. They usually tell you that they didn’t if they didn’t. That’s the whole idea about doing stuff: You’re responsible for your actions.
Only if you really, fundamentally, don’t know people.
They usually tell you that they didn’t if they didn’t.
Yeah, you just non-stop get these interactions where someone who has absolutely no clue about what kind of company Nestlé is grabs you by the shoulder and goes “I only bought Nescafe because there wasn’t anything else in the store, I swear!”
What nonsense. The whole premise here was that people are being told something. If somebody’s repeatedly told that they’re probably a lunatic because of the .ml attached to their name they’ll know something’s up. This isn’t about not telling people, this is about treating people like they know what they’re doing and telling them. Otherwise we wouldn’t even have this discussion because I’d just have left.
But this is going nowhere. You say we can’t expect people to know the symbolism they surround themselves with, I say it’s bullshit. We’re going in circles. So, you do you, great. I’ll, however, assume that the next person I see wearing a swastika is, in fact, a lunatic moron, and not just a poor fella who unknowingly made a wrong pick in the thrift store.
The whole premise here was that people are being told something
Where did you get that from?? The premise here was that someone (you? Can’t remember) said that “it’s obvious” that someone from the .ml instance would have certain views. Who tells the majority of people on the Internet what kind of instance .ml is?
If somebody’s repeatedly told that they’re probably a lunatic because of the .ml attached to their name they’ll know something’s up.
Super heavy vibes of “if someone’s repeatedly told that they have thick skin and don’t need painkillers because of the dark skin, they’ll know it’s true”.
We need a new name for this - “racism” but towards people using the 'incorrect" Lemmy domain.
This isn’t about not telling people, this is about treating people like they know what they’re doing and telling them
Exactly! “It’s common knowledge that black people have night blindness” vibe.
You say we can’t expect people to know the symbolism they surround themselves with
What is the “symbolism” of the .ml instance? Look at what a new user sees when they get there - their sidebar description and their rules, and show me where the symbolism is that makes them the “undesirable” instance.
I’ll, however, assume that the next person I see wearing a swastika is, in fact, a lunatic moron, and not just a poor fella who unknowingly made a wrong pick in the thrift store.
I’ll, however, assume that the next person I see wearing a swastika is, in fact, a lunatic moron, and not just a poor fella who unknowingly made a wrong pick in the thrift store.
Comparing the .ml domain to a swastika is just peak Lemmy delusion. Get help, friend, go outside. There’s life outside the Internet too!
It sounds the same because it is the same thing!
Are you saying that if you see someone eating a Nestlé product, you just punch them in the face? Or call them names? Or, if it’s a family member/friend, you immediately cut them off? Because they should’ve done their research?
I’m not punching anyone or calling them names. I’m judging them and tell them that their actions leave a certain impression. And yes, if somebody knowingly buys nestle, I won’t value their opinion on sustainable products or supply nets or listen to them when it comes to that topic 🤷. Tough shit. If you wear a badge you might better check what it represents.
How do you know if they do it knowingly?
You can always assume people do stuff knowingly. They usually tell you that they didn’t if they didn’t. That’s the whole idea about doing stuff: You’re responsible for your actions.
Only if you really, fundamentally, don’t know people.
Yeah, you just non-stop get these interactions where someone who has absolutely no clue about what kind of company Nestlé is grabs you by the shoulder and goes “I only bought Nescafe because there wasn’t anything else in the store, I swear!”
What nonsense. The whole premise here was that people are being told something. If somebody’s repeatedly told that they’re probably a lunatic because of the .ml attached to their name they’ll know something’s up. This isn’t about not telling people, this is about treating people like they know what they’re doing and telling them. Otherwise we wouldn’t even have this discussion because I’d just have left.
But this is going nowhere. You say we can’t expect people to know the symbolism they surround themselves with, I say it’s bullshit. We’re going in circles. So, you do you, great. I’ll, however, assume that the next person I see wearing a swastika is, in fact, a lunatic moron, and not just a poor fella who unknowingly made a wrong pick in the thrift store.
Where did you get that from?? The premise here was that someone (you? Can’t remember) said that “it’s obvious” that someone from the .ml instance would have certain views. Who tells the majority of people on the Internet what kind of instance .ml is?
Super heavy vibes of “if someone’s repeatedly told that they have thick skin and don’t need painkillers because of the dark skin, they’ll know it’s true”.
We need a new name for this - “racism” but towards people using the 'incorrect" Lemmy domain.
Exactly! “It’s common knowledge that black people have night blindness” vibe.
What is the “symbolism” of the .ml instance? Look at what a new user sees when they get there - their sidebar description and their rules, and show me where the symbolism is that makes them the “undesirable” instance.
Comparing the .ml domain to a swastika is just peak Lemmy delusion. Get help, friend, go outside. There’s life outside the Internet too!
Sure thing, buddy.