• RalfWausE@feddit.org
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    16 hours ago

    I still like Opera but I would really wish they would move to a different browser engine…

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      15 hours ago

      I feel like googles just used it’s monopoly so strongly to make everything be chromium.

      Looking at stats counter.

      Chrome - 75.45, edge 9.55, safari 5.37, firefox 4.32, opera 2.13, brave 1.17.

      so… in short of their listings, 88.9% are chrome based… safari being the largest non chrome based browser. Firefox being the only other one with enough userbase to even get on the list.

      My only guess is that google’s made their services a big enough pain or enough favoratism that even microsoft decided they didn’t want to try and work around it.

      To which I also have to note, how few browsers aren’t chromium… IE Brave, Vivaldi etc…

      I’ve started using zen browser myself, but I find it kind of odd that there’s so few firefox based browsers… which is something that I’ve found kind of baffling… considering I haven’t really found any negatives in using zen for about a year… Google’s always been, a huge threat to preventing adblockers etc… for years, is it just a lack of ideas of what to add to firefox.

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        5 hours ago

        To which I also have to note, how few browsers aren’t chromium… IE Brave, Vivaldi etc…

        I must be misunderstanding this line, as both of those are chromium browsers. Not sure if you meant to call out safari and Firefox as 'how few aren’t chromium, or that so many browsers are chromium based like those two.

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        15 hours ago

        Gecko is kind of PITA to integrate on anything, unless you are just writing a glorified Firefox skin. That’s why Apple forked khtml to make webkit, despite khtml being less compatible with websites back then. It doesn’t help most Firefox forks come into almost-unusable-paranoia-driven flavour (like Librewolf) and maintainers-are-in-way-over-their-heads flavour (like Zen), and they all lack enough maintainers to keep up with upstream.

        Servo could be a serious Blink/Webkit competitor, but unfortunately Mozilla dropped the ball there, and Samsung is still not taking it seriously enough.

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        15 hours ago

        To which I also have to note, how few browsers aren’t chromium… IE Brave, Vivaldi etc…

        Both are though? Or did I misunderstand?

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          14 hours ago

          Yeah sorry I phrased that bad, I meant to be listing smaller browsers that are also chromium. Point I was going at was most all the niche browsers are also chromium based.