Bluesky has gained a million new users in the last three days.
The platform posted about the milestone this afternoon, which it crossed after Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes ordered a ban on Elon Musk’s X yesterday as part of an ongoing feud with the platform.
Apparently, enough are headed to Bluesky to drive its iOS app to the top of the Brazilian App Store, as TechCrunch writes.
I’m sad that a lot of people couldn’t perceive the mastodon in the room.
Mastodon isn’t a straight replacement for twitter, bluesky is.
Why is that?
From what I can tell from within the Mastodon echo chamber: quote replies and moderation
Also a bunch of hinky weirdness and slowness.
The Technology Connections guy (Alec) threw some shade on Mastodon yesterday that seemed like a good example:
My favorite thing about Bluesky is that I haven’t gotten a stream of notifications that I’ve been tagged in a post on a weird fork of the software which my client doesn’t parse correctly so I only see one side of a conversation.
Sure, but there are other ActivityPub protocol softwares that have quote replies and moderation, that aren’t Mastodon. I think the challenge is getting the average user to seek out an instance running one of those softwares and not just mastodon dot social.
Problem is there’s no marketing money to make the better platforms more widely known because there’s not as much monetization of the users to fund it.
Frankly? I’m happy that they didn’t end in Mastodon. Most of those users would have negative value there, and in the Fediverse as a whole.
Twitter was always a cesspool of assumptive, entitled, whiny, nationalistic, context-illiterate users, who’d spend most of their time finding reasons to screech at each other (and at you) than sharing interesting content. That’s regardless of language, but it was specially egregious among Brazilian users there. And it got only worse when Musk bought it, as suddenly the alt right users felt themselves justified to soapbox nonstop there.
Most people with a shred of dignity got the fuck out of that shithole ages ago. The ones not doing so were, most of the time, the ones saying “this is fine, this is how it’s supposed to be”. And those are the ones migrating to Bluesky now.
Someone might say “but we could integrate them into Mastodon. They’d behave better.” Well… we’re talking about a large horde of users, they’d be more likely to bring the place down than let the place bring them up. Eternal September style.
I was a redditor pre Eternal September. That was the beginning of the end for old reddit.
I was a redditor pre Eternal September.
The point of Eternal September is that it happens all the time, so when was that?
The point of Eternal September is that it happens all the time, so when was that?
Kind of - it doesn’t happen “all” the time; it has a beginning, but no end.
If you consider it’s the influx of new users, then yes, it does happen all the time. Do you have a different definition?
What’s “eternal” in “Eternal September” is not the influx of new users, but rather the disruption of the social norms caused by a huge and sudden influx of new users.
That disruption started in 1993, and never ended. So it had a beginning but no end as of yet.
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Mastodon’s original app is just trash Threads are completely unreadable, it should be like that of X
The thing that goes against what most people are used to is the fact that most fediverse services either don’t have an official app or the official app is just a proof of concept. You’re kind of expected to use either the website directly or third party apps, which are usually much better.
When I still used my Mastodon account I used Megalodon and was testing Moshidon as well. Now I just use the PWA for the Sharkey instance I’m on.
+1 for Sharkey. It’s my favorite of the protocols, so far.
What makes it your favorite?
Mainly the 5000 character limit. It handles MFM (though I don’t really use it), and features like antennas (very specific follow lists).
the last time I tried to make a mastodon account I had to type a paragraph about why i want an account and then wait for an email approval and I don’t know what the hell happened because I forgot to look for the email and by now I don’t give a shit
Since I was a poor little kid in the slums of Nairobi with no internet access I dreamed about having a
<service>account. […]I didn’t even know Mastodon has an exclusive club streak lol.
Just like Lemmy, some Mastodon instances have measures in place to try and prevent bots.
When you try do sign up on the Mastodon app it defaults to and recommends mastodon.social, which does nothing of this sort. The average user will just keep this default and be fine.
Finding the right mastodon instance was incredibly annoying. I use it, but barely. Most of the artists I follow are on Bluesky, anyway, which is a lot easier to use.
Mastodon allows you to transfer your followers when you migrate, so it’s not a big deal if you change your mind about the first instance you had chosen.
You lost an average user at “instance”, long before “transferring an account”. It’s a big deal.
That may be true for someone just looking to sign up with no help, but if they come across a guide or if their friend helps them, then it’s easy.
So you agree with me. To succeed, a product shouldn’t require a guide or a friend’s help to install and configure it. I work in IT, yet I don’t see people around me bothering with all that. Now think of your relatives, friends, people you see every day on the street or in a mall - they couldn’t care less.
Well, entering Mastodon in the search bar of a search engine today shows that it’s even easier than it was during the big Twitter exodus. The first link is mastodon.social. Clicking that lands you on a page where Create an account is highlighted in blue. From there, it’s the standard signup process everyone is used to.
Edit: Rewrote the comment to focus on the actual flow today rather than anything speculative.
The fediverse is seeing an uptick as well. Els enshitofication continues. Good for us I suppose.
Blue Sky is the only one that allows porn and has no defederation drama, so I’m not surprised people went there. Instagram even put a banner telling people to try out threads but who would trust Zuck?
Downloaded it. Signed up. Replied to a post about rechargeable batteries. Account got restricted. Left.
Restricted to the whole site or just that user? The user tools are pretty powerful on their own.
Not sure what I got blocked from. Might poke around later and see. Guess I upset a bot by using a colon or something.
Maybe the phrase “white ones are better” triggered some moderation bot?
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Can someone explain to me the difference between bluesky and twitter?
One is going down the drain first
Unfortunately dark money from Russia is keeping it afloat to provide misinformation for the United States election
Ooookkay,
what
Wow, the emerald mine heir that wants to go to mars is getting support from the ex-KGB agent with a penchant for poisoning. I honestly don’t know why I expected anything different
Bluesky is built on an open source ActivityPub alternative called “AT Protocol”. However, Bluesky itself is not open source* and afaik does not yet federate with any other software. The company is a “public benefit corporation”.
From my understanding, Bluesky has good moderation, to the point where Jack Dorsey (the Twitter founder) condemned it and withdrew from the project. That’s a big plus in my book.
- Another commenter pointed out that some parts of it are open source, such as the apps and at least some parts of the backend. Im not sure to what extent the backend is open source.
Wait, Dorsey left? That might actually make it interesting
Yep, and he soon after started praising musk and Twitter, calling it “freedom software” lol. Him leaving was what drew my attention, I like the way it’s heading so far.
Bluesky itself is not open source
Am I missing something? https://github.com/bluesky-social
As far as I understand, the protocol and client apps are completely open souce. I do not believe the Bluesky software is open source, so you could not host an instance the same way you would with Mastodon. I could be missing something or not underatanding, but that’s what it seems to me.
I heard Brazil did not ban twitter for good reasons, it can be to block a passage of speech.
elon musk was asked to point a legal rep and show up to answer questions about spreading fake news and promoting criminal activity. He denied point out the rep or participating in the investigation at all. There is some backlash as the judge gave the final warning on twitter since there was no legal rep, which would be a first.
