I did limit my hopes to “some”, but I agree, introspection is woefully lacking in a America. Peer pressure should also help, though.

As a song, it’s just ok. But you know a huge percentage of ice agents like Bruce, he’s too popular for there not to be, and I have to imagine the surreality of having a truly iconic artist write a song about you has to have an impact. It’s getting harder for these guys to just go through the motions and not think about what’s really happening. Things like this song gives me hope for some of them having a Mitchell and Webb type, “are we the baddies” epiphany.

Cue vt of Trump and Giuliani dressed as women.

And my suspicion on the credit card thing is that he knows the average household is broke and wants to make living on credit more appealing. Cleverly this gets the CC companies to cover the deficit and keeps dirt off of easier to obtain stats. That jackal doesn’t have an altruistic bone in his body. If I were drowning, I wouldn’t accept a life saver from him under suspicion of ulterior motives.

Just for a frame of reference for my European friends, the Whitehouse is a 42 hour drive through 11 states for me right now. Each one of those 11 states is politically unique. Organizing this country is not nearly as simple as everyone else on the planet seems to think. Furthermore, preventing us from organizing is one third of the planets billionaires, who’s interests lie definitively in our being fragmented, over worked, and exploitable.

Even in a world where what Bondi says is accurate, that ilegal immigrants are uniquely fraudulent in Minnesota in particular, how does looking at medicaid records, and snap records, and voter roles help? Can illegal immigrants even register to vote? Aren’t they famously, eponymously, undocumented? And besides all that, what the hell does this have to do with the shootings? They were both American citizens, and neither are being accused even by the lie factory of defrauding anyone?

They always play the victim, and spam the debate with red herrings and jingoistic gibberish, which is annoying enough at face value, but I find it really obnoxious how effective it seems to be.

Well they shot a woman in the head and lied about the particulars, even though it was filmed from a million different angles, and the DOJ has done nothing but bend over backwards to avoid any amount of investigation let alone prosecution. And the people have done nothing but get red in the face and jump and down with steam shooting from their ears like an angry cartoon. I would argue that extra judicial killings are already normalized.

Edit: just a half hour after posting this, looks like another dead in a 10 on one dog pile.

To be fair, the puppet is always ignorant of the hand.

Everything, literally everything is “for show”. Civilization is just a construct we’ve all (more or less) agreed upon. It still matters.

You seem pretty emotionally invested, so I will recommend that as I am not particularly invested, if it is easier for you, I give you total freedom to ignore my individual opinion. I’m just one man, feel free to ignore me. But what I’ve quoted is primarily direct quotes from Jesus (per the bible), or taken from Exodus, which is about as foundational as it gets Christianity wise.

I agree that the bible is a poor source of clarity. It is all over the map as far as rules, and not very consistent. But I’m not talking apocryphy here, I’m talking straight up 10 commandments shit. The core “do unto others”, and “don’t be greedy”, and “be grateful”, stuff that the whole thing is supposed to be based on.

I think ultimately we are arguing the same thing: That there is something to justify anything within the labyrinthian maze that is biblical logic. But where we diverge is that you are willing to call anyone who claims to be Christian, Christian. And I’m trying to highlight how an overwhelming majority of Christians are anything but.

My original point is that the brown shirt, class traitor, gestapo, murderer “christian” is just about as Christian as the king asshole there in the white house: ie, not at all. I’m attempting to call attention to the painfully paradoxical relationship between those who call themselves Christians and their estimation of the importance of things such as compassion, charity, humility, simplicity, community, and introspection.

I actually am seriously claiming that the Spanish conquistadors were not Christian. As enslaving, oppressing, and getting rich, are counter indicated by the bible. The inconsistency is not mine, it is the “followers” of the bible.

With all the feeding and clothing the poor, and the

Whoever kidnaps a person, whether that person has been sold or is still held in possession, shall be put to death.

And the

You shall not oppress a resident alien; you know the heart of an alien, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt.

And the

Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

I would argue a true Christian would be considered part of the “radical left” and that conservativism is an anathema to chistianity.

If it’s kids, it’s always rape.

At the very least, if you’re trying to persuade to have kids, people who have chosen to not have kids, those people are not childless, they are child free. Their will is to be without child. They are not failing at having kids, they are succeeding at not having them.

Childless, child free.

Well, not his parents that’s for sure. Which may have gotten us in to this mess in the first place.

Punishment as a deterrent hasn’t worked for the entirety of human civilization. Otherwise we would have fewer murders than other countries as we continue to be one of the few places that cling to capital punishment. There will always be monsters. I won’t argue that murder isn’t justified, but it also isn’t a “solution” in the strictest sense. Fear is what you’re talking about and it is a fickle master.

Probably unpopular opinion, but torturing our current problems wont prevent our future problems.

Conservatives think [it’s] simple, they take [it] apart and can’t get it to work again, liberals fix [it], conservatives get jealous, how complicated can [it] be? I’ll show those hot shot know-it-alls, takes [it] apart, can’t get [it] to work again…

Even if we get the 37% or so of truly burdensome people out of intellectual debt, the best we can seemingly hope for is ~45 years before the entire nation forgets all of the hard lessons it learned and insists on relearning them again.

Here’s the progression: unignorable calamity (inspiration, debt) > society bands together (creation, true wealth) > conspicuously wealthy take unfair advantage (consumption, illusion of gains) > unignorable calamity, ad infinitum. Or to simplify: conservatives break things, liberals fix things, and neither learn a lesson.