MudMan

Yeah, well, don’t tell them. The fields of Mastodon are still full of the debris of the Great Threads Arguments. Seemed to me everybody thought they had the correct and only Fedi.

I am remarkably annoyed by this guy making predictions on measurable things that he then entirely vibe-checks.

I am more surprised than I should be at how quickly the Fedi pitch went from “we want a future where everything is interoperable everywhere” to “we don’t want any interaction with for profit companies”.

I don’t mind either way, it’s all bad and I shouldn’t be here in the first place, but… you know, it’s weird seeing social patterns develop in real time.

Yeeeeah, I have less of a problem for that, because… well yeah, people host stuff for you all the time, right? Any time you’re a client the host is someone else. Self-hosting makes some sense for services where you’re both the host and the client.

Technically you’re not self hosting anything for your family in that case, you’re just… hosting it, but I can live with it.

I do think this would all go down easier if we had a nice marketable name for it. I don’t know, power-internetting, or “the information superdriveway”. This was all easier in the 90s, I guess is what I’m accidentally saying.

This is a me thing and not related to this video specifically, but I absolutely hate that we’ve settled on “homelab” as a term for “I have software in some computer I expose to my home network”.

It makes sense if you are also a system administrator of an online service and you’re testing stuff before you deploy it, but a home server isn’t a “lab” for anything, it’s the final server you’re using and don’t plan to do anything else with. Your kitchen isn’t a “test kitchen” just because you’re serving food to your family.

Sorry, pet peeve over. The video is actually ok.

I’m talking about all the people going “good” in this thread out of hostility for Windows/MS without realizing the change being described is a move to a more closed-off, privacy-invasive environment, not the opposite. Which is a result of either not reading past the headline or being so polarized on the issue that they are willing to take the downsides for the sake of schadenfreude.

As for what I meant by that vague term, I just didn’t want to say “an open mobile OS”. Mostly because… well, it invites a lot of open questions about Android I don’t think are interesting right now, but also because I think “mobile OS” is increasingly a misnomer.

People are clearly using iOS and Android as their main computing platforms now, both of them are rolling out full multi-window desktops for larger devices out of the box and they’re both already usable that way with limitations right now. When you say “mobile OS” people visualize a phone and want to talk about Linux on phones and… that’s probably not the right answer or the right way to look at it.

This is a great example of people taking sides and not seeing past their own noses about it.

Also of not reading past the headline, but whatever.

If I have to choose between the janky but unlocked environment of Windows and a world of iOS and Googlified Android users I’d pick Windowsland in a heartbeat.

We need a better integrated device open alternative, and fast.

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It is entirely possible that the entire construct of copyright just isn’t fit to regulate this and the “right to train” or to avoid training needs to be formulated separately.

The maximalist, knee-jerk assumption that all AI training is copying is feeding into the interests of, ironically, a bunch of AI companies. That doesn’t mean that actual authors and artists don’t have an interest in regulating this space.

The big takeaway, in my book, is copyright is finally broken beyond all usability. Let’s scrap it and start over with the media landscape we actually have, not the eighteenth century version of it.

Less bad, maybe?

Either way it’s definitely a good example of why you should write good emails to your customers that explain things properly.

If this is what they’re saying I’m assuming they didn’t want to be too clear about what info they’re storing if you don’t opt out and ended up making an email that sounds like a threat.

Either way I won’t be using Gemini as an assistant any time soon. Or any other voice assistant, for that matter.

Right. They have an opt-out for Gemini storing your in-app activity, which I believe is a requirement to get the assistant to be able to do things in the app. This seems to say you may be able to interact with some messaging apps even if you opt out (presumably they would have a rebuilt way to interact with those that doesn’t store any of your data?).

So there’s an opt-out.

The article seems concerned that the email announcing this doesn’t include a specific path to the opt-out right in the email (which is a weird concern, considering the email provides two links to… presumably that information)?

I’m not sure what this means, either, but it seems the “whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off” line is saying that you can still have Gemini send texts for you even if you disable Google storing your apps usage server-side? I don’t use Gemini as an assistant, so I’m not sure, but looking at the Gemini settings menu on my Android phone that’s what it seems to map to.

Right, Steam is baked into Bazzite, not installed on top. I stand corrected.

The first set of numbers you link match my intuitions about what’s happening to the Steam data. The second seems… less reliable, given the methodology, and don’t say much about Fedora gamers in particular. The overall takeaways about the size of Fedora desktop do make sense to me, though.

To complete the cryptic “kinda” answer, because you made me look it up, their Gnome variation is built from Silverblue and they have a KDE variant built from Kinoite. Fedora Atomic either way, for our purposes here.

I wouldn’t expect anything ready any time soon. Especially when you look at Valve’s own stats where Fedora doesn’t even register in the top 11 distributions used on Steam. Although, we don’t know what distros make up the 7% for the Steam Flatpak - but that’s not supported by Valve anyway.

Isn’t Bazzite built on Fedora Silverblue and installs the Steam Flatpak? I could take a guess.

It is between 0.1 and 0.05% the size of Reddit.

So yes.

I guess that’s a fair point, but there are a few things I’d point out in response.

For one thing, nested threads weren’t that rare, even early on. I refuse to give Reddit credit for that one. Pair that with the fact that around here the upvote sorting is far less relevant and you have a more forum-like arrangement. It’s definitely not the “only the most upvoted post counts” thing over here. You have very long threads with a lot of different responses and responses to responses. The filtering and bubbling up based on popularity is not quite Reddit-like.

For another thing, and perhaps more importantly, social media isn’t just defined by its features. Reddit is the way it is because of how people engage with it and how large and anonymous it is. The entry points are different, the connections are different, the reliance on discoverability tools is waaay different. This place doesn’t feel like Reddit because even if it has a few of those tools it doesn’t much need them. You can parse the entire firehose. You can’t be Reddit like that.

If anything I’m surprised by the constant Reddit comparisons, because this has never felt like Reddit to me.

It feels like a 90s forum. Small, focused on a handful of topics, you always argue with the same five guys about the same five things… It’s not a Reddit replacement at all. Which is why I’m here, I don’t contribute to Reddit and never have.

Cool. So not totally screwed then.

It’s normally 1-2 days where I am (not the US, incidentally).

Still, I mean… pretty sure I can survive that long without a toaster (or… you know, go outside and buy one from a shop).

As screwed as a society with same-day online order delivery can be, I guess?