Chin stubble is my hand’s scratching post.

Oh, definitely protest. Just stay non-violent and record all of the unprovoked use of unnecessary force. Like this:

ICE hit and run
https://files.catbox.moe/ykdo17.mov

LAPD tramples civilian with horse
https://files.catbox.moe/oowzj4.mp4

LAPD damage their own cruiser
https://files.catbox.moe/01bkj4.mov

Reporters attacked by LAPD
1.https://files.catbox.moe/yhvagw.mp4
2.https://files.catbox.moe/zpycx3.mp4
3.https://files.catbox.moe/rcez2o.mp4

LAPD refuses aid to civilian with head wound from rubber bullet
https://files.catbox.moe/6u8wlt.mp4

That’s fair. Then don’t trust it. I don’t implicitly trust any source but my own experience, and even that is flawed.

Still better than the hot day stickily dickily.

“They started it” may work in third grade, but not here. Don’t let their violent behavior provoke you. Instead, record and document it, gain a safer position, and continue to protest.

This was addressed here: https://lemmy.world/comment/17556522

I do, when the conversation isn’t promoting violent resistance.

We’re not stopping them peacefully or violently with 1.5% of our nation in protest. Violent resistance at this size will only reduce our numbers.

Agreed. This was the most advertised and televised election in US history. The 90M people who sat out made a choice to do so.

Seems like it. He posted about Putin’s offer to give Musk asylum before it was offered by Medvedev on Xitter.

I love the idea of them wasting all of those resources, but we need the 14th to be as big as possible. Protests are the best way to chat up less informed and newly engaged people, share communication resources, and generate awareness through unity.

Yup. He was on Trump’s team until he saw him with the mask off. He’s been disclosing Trump’s inner circle plays since he left. His son is Aaron Parnas, of Meidas Touch network and now his own platform.

I don’t follow. I’m in complete support of protest. I’m only condemning violent resistance with less than 1% of our population because of the damage it would do to protesting.

First and foremost, we need more numbers. Our largest peaceful protest was only 1.5% of our population at 5M people. Violent or non-violent, we will change nothing with those numbers.

The largest demographic in those protests were boomers, older people that would not be capable of, nor interested in, fighting. We use publicly available websites, shared on every social media platform, and that the most commitment we’ve seen so far. Violent revolution would require secured communication channels, losing additional numbers in the process.

People calling for violence truly don’t understand how few would show up. They’d quickly be hunted and incarcerated with such small numbers. The threats of violence would the keep most people in their houses, afraid to protest for fear of their safety, effectively suppressing peaceful resistance.

Calling for violence before we have the commitment is exactly how Hitler chipped away at wave after wave, and is precisely Trump’s plan. He first dispatched ICE to downtown LA, not skid row where they’d be more likely to find criminal immigrants. They raided a corporate business and several public schools first to gain the attention of the media, then against the governor’s wishes, dispatched the National Guard. We cannot be dumb enough to walk into an obvious trap set by the dumbest president in the history of our nation.

Protesting and reaching out to the disengaged is the strategy. I’m part of multiple groups that got our protests up to 5M nationwide in just a few months. We’re getting there, but we’re not there yet. Acting on emotions and driving people back into their homes in fear will undo real progress.

But I get it. You have big feelings.

I’m very familiar with history. What you fail to acknowledge is that our largest nationwide peaceful protest, which will ALWAYS outnumber the violent resistance, was 5M people. That’s 1.5% of our population.

My point of the Reichstag Fire as a metaphor is that Trump is clearly using this to incite us. If the goal was to get criminals first, they wouldn’t have stated in downtown LA. That’s a high profile message. He also chose to use the National Guard before ICE stated it was necessary, over the governor’s head.

I’m sorry you’re too passionate about this topic to see it for what it is, but I will not accept your misguided interpretation of the best strategy for our current situation.

What about losing people to fear of unsafe protest conditions and incarcerations makes sense to you? All so a few people can get their rocks off like Leroy Jenkins throwing shit at officers? It’s completely counterproductive when we don’t have the numbers to take it all the way.

I’m not taking any of this personally. I’m taking the logistics of it very seriously. This type of half-assed violent resistance is exactly how Hitler chipped away at the population. We cannot be dumber than Trump, especially when we literally have his playbook.

What part of “we will lose people to incarceration and fear” are you not understanding?

What part of “we will lose people to incarceration and fear” are you not understanding?

They escalated first, yes. That doesn’t justify escalation on our part.

Don’t pretend that your feelings are facts. You sound like MAGA.

How the actual fuck do you expect 1-2% of our nation to violently overthrow the government? All this will do is incarcerate people and scare others into their homes, effectively reducing our numbers, while giving Trump the justification he wants.

Your feelings outweigh your logic. Maybe you should keep them to yourself until you can think more clearly.