Bit late for that tbh

I’m not sure “Trump is a martyr” leads to the timeline you think it does.

All land above water is a mountain top, at a certain scale.

Trump could piss on the tomb of the unknown soldier and nothing would happen.

Has this guy ever won a case?

Unfortunately, I don’t think it will happen in the States within my lifetime. Too much identity tied up in the idea of freedom.

I’m not overlooking anything, I’m disagreeing with the framing. If Harris has 99 votes and Trump had 0, Harris wins.

Sure, I’d agree with that too, but I’d say a literal rock should be competitive to Trump in a sane universe.

I would disagree that it was disingenuous, but i don’t think that will surprise you. Agree to disagree on this one!

It was a yes or no question. You’re as good at dodging them as politicians! You should run third party. ;)

Pretty shallow vote of that’s all they are looking at, but I certainly can’t rule out the possibility I suppose. Don’t know if I’d call those people progressive, though.

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My friend, I have never blocked another person on here yet and I’m afraid you may need to be my first because at this point I fear you’re just trolling me. Good day.

I did not mean to imply that no one is. But those who did not vote for him are not responsible for him winning, and should carry no blame.

I hope they can follow through!

No, I said very plainly what I meant. If you think that Harris is the best choice for the country, I encourage you to speak to people who aren’t going to vote for her and to to convince them of that. No more so than people who plan on voting for Trump.

What? How am I encouraging others not to vote?? I cannot state in any more clear terms: I think that everyone should vote, every citizen has a responsibility to vote.

Yes, I read the article.

So, just to be clear: A progressive who doesn’t vote, or who votes in the general election for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or Cornel West or Jill Stein — or whoever No Labels puts up as a candidate — is voting for Donald Trump.

This is precisely the lie I am referencing in my original comment.

I am tired of people blaming voters who didn’t vote for the fascist being blamed for the fascist winning. Blame those who actually voted for the fascist.

I think we would agree on more than some might think. I think we disagree on just some of the nuance.

Unfortunately there are already too many up here that trying to emulate the States, even walking around with MAGA flags.

I’m well aware of how the election works. You did not answer my most important question.

Would you agree with me that if no one voted for Trump, then Trump would not win?