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  • I think you have got to be meme’ing. You literally wrote 7 paragraphs about how to build something for python when for other languages it’s literally a single command. For Ruby, it’s literally bundle. Nothing else. Doesn’t matter if it’s got C packages or not. Doesn’t matter if it’s windows or not. Doesn’t matter if you have a different project one folder over that uses an older gem or not. Doesn’t matter if it’s 15 years old or not. One command.

    Just for comparison for gradle it’s ./gradlew build For maven is mvn install For Elixir it’s mix deps.get mix compile For node it’s npm install

    every other language it’s hardly more than 1 command.

    Python is the only language that thinks that it’s even slightly acceptable to have virtual environments when it was universally decided upon decades ago to be a tremendously bad idea. Just like node_modules which also was known to be a bad idea before npm decided to try it out again, only for it to be proven to be a bad idea right off the bat. And all the other python build tools have agreed that virtual envs are bad.


  • and yet that all works fine in Ruby, which came out around the same time as Python and yet has had Bundler for 15 years now.

    Python - 15+ package managers and build tools Ruby - 1

    the closest language to look at for packaging is probably lua, which has similar issues. however since lua is usually not a standalone application platform it’s not a big deal there.

    no the closest language is literally Ruby, it’s almost the exact same language, except the tooling isn’t insane and it came out only a few years after python.