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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22077561

“I’m not interested in anyone who is moving further away from the center,” said Cindy Bass, a Pennsylvania committee member from Philadelphia. “The center is where we have to be.”

They’re not going to change a thing unless people make them.

Find your local state delegate and personally tell them how you feel a centrist is only going to guarantee another Republican victory. They are listed here: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_National_Committee

Bernie Sanders is working behind the scenes to get a progressive in there but he can’t do it alone.

  • Flocklesscrow@lemm.eeEnglish
    252·
    6 days ago

    So either we are to believe they’ve learned nothing and will continue to alienate their base, while remaining inept fools on the international stage, OR their idea of rebuilding a carbon copy of the previous failures is by design.

    A centrist DNC is a loser. A center-right DNC is a loser. The DNC will never beat the Republicans at their own game, so either these strategists are the densest people on the planet, or they are the mouthpieces of Controlled Opposition, exactly as expected.

    There is no duality in which savvy, intelligent political players arrive at “Centrism wins,” without some inherent greasy, malfeasant ulterior motives.

    It’s difficult to even pretend that they are serious in this endeavor; their every action and utterance is an admission of planned incompetence.

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      410·
      6 days ago

      There is no duality in which savvy, intelligent political players arrive at “Centrism wins,”

      Obama and Clinton were centrists. They won.

      • Flocklesscrow@lemm.eeEnglish
        161·
        6 days ago

        Clinton won in 1993. The late 1900s. 30+ years ago.

        Obama’s entire campaign was on Hope for Change. And he’s the first black President ever.

        Are you really trying to argue that these are equivalences?

        • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
          39·
          6 days ago

          Clinton and Obama are still alive today, they are still centrist, and they are still extremely popular.

          If Trump got his way and was allowed to run for a third term in 2028, is there any doubt that Obama could defeat him?

            • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
              41·
              6 days ago

              He ran as someone who would bring together Blue America and Red America in the spirit of bipartisanship.

              From the beginning, he intentionally reached out to Republicans.

              We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don’t like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. We coach Little League in the blue states and, yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the red states.

              His 2008 acceptance speech at the DNC mentions “Republicans” five times, and never in a disparaging manner. It does not mention labor unions even once.

              Tonight, I say to the American people, to Democrats and Republicans and independents across this great land — enough! This moment — this election — is our chance to keep, in the 21st century, the American promise alive.

              The Bush-McCain foreign policy has squandered the legacy that generations of Americans — Democrats and Republicans — have built, and we are here to restore that legacy.

              I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a red America or a blue America – they have served the United States of America.

              The challenges we face require tough choices, and Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn-out ideas and politics of the past.

              And I’ve seen it in this campaign. In the young people who voted for the first time, and in those who got involved again after a very long time. In the Republicans who never thought they’d pick up a Democratic ballot, but did.

              • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
                1·
                4 days ago

                He ran as someone who would bring together Blue America and Red America in the spirit of bipartisanship.

                I really liked Obama in 2008, but his Presidency was unbelievably disappointing and hope crushing. He didn’t end the wars or give us universal healthcare, he didn’t tax the rich or give us the right to unionize without fearing for our jobs… also, Republicans hated Obama so much that the party elected Trump in 2016! So Obama’s “lie about being a progressive then pivot to centrist bipartisan bullshit” was absolutely a colossal failure.

                • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  4 days ago

                  You should reread his speeches. He didn’t lie about being a progressive. He was openly a centrist.

                  He never promised single-payer health care or a public option. He promised to stop insurance companies from excluding people with preexisting conditions, which he did.

                  He never promised to end all the wars. He promised to withdraw troops from Iraq and send more troops to Afghanistan, which he did.

                  And he didn’t say anything at all about taxing the rich or helping unions.