• Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    I I genuinely wonder what would change? What’s worse than denying and backing the genocide with weapons, soldiers and money under Biden? What worse could Trump do?

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      6 days ago

      The West Bank, where roughly half of Palestineans live was more or less left alone as one of yhr administrations red lines (also, Iran’s oil/nuclear facilities.)

      With trump incoming, it seems Israel feels they have a green light to expand in the West Bank.

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        6 days ago

        Israel have been aggressively expanding in the West Bank since October 7, and intensified their campaign at around the same time they started the war with Lebanon. There are no red lines.

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          6 days ago

          What new settlements happened thete in the last year? You are conflating an increase in tensions and conflict with expansion.

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              5 days ago

              From the article:

              In the past year, about 4,555 Palestinians have been displaced in the West Bank after Israeli forces demolished their homes.

              Now, I’m no mathematician but surely you understand that’s orders of magnitude fewer than have been displaced in Gaza, right? Please?

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                5 days ago

                Yes, because violence in the West Bank has always been lower-level than the violence in Gaza. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make is.

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                  5 days ago

                  Always does not mean “since I started paying attention” but regardless…

                  Anyway, you’re so close! Let’s tey the socratic method, given that the West Bank has been an Israeli target for years, why do you think the violence has been at such a lower level than Gaza since the rapes and murders of Oct 7th?

                  And why did that coincidentally change days after the election, with Smoterich now directing “the start of professional work to prepare the necessary infrastructure to apply Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.”

                  If you’re ruling out Biden etc, was it just a wild miracle of timing?

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                    Always does not mean “since I started paying attention” but regardless…

                    Huh? Are we even talking about the same conflict? This has been the case since 2005 when Israel disengaged from Gaza.

                    why do you think the violence has been at such a lower level than Gaza since the rapes and murders of Oct 7th?

                    Uh… Because there’s no resistance worth mentioning in the West Bank? They don’t need to do much for their colonial project in the West Bank, but if settlers tried entering Gaza they’d just be shot.

                    And why did that coincidentally change days after the election, with Smoterich now directing “the start of professional work to prepare the necessary infrastructure to apply Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.”

                    It didn’t change, but that aside he might’ve felt emboldened to say it out loud, but we still don’t know if the rest of the Israeli government will allow that. In case they do anytime soon, the only conclusion would be that there were plans for such an action from before the election.