They want a future in which only they own property, and everyone else has to rent even the freaking air.
I will go without. I will drag a PC and a mobile router everywhere I go before I rent a phone. Can these asshole corporate bullshitters just go to mars already so we can be free of them?
used unlocked phone market has been my go to for decades
Same, two to three year old phones for 10th the price on eBay as long as it states clean imse has been awsome
That’s definitely also a reason why they’re thinking about this system. If people sell them back their old phones or lease them, the second hand market will suffer immensely.
My Samsung S10 has headphone jack and expandable storage 😎 7 year old phone, bought it used for $130
and no security updates
It’s time for some right-of-first-sale legislation that kills off the subscription-for-everything scam.
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It should be illegal for a lack of a subscription to prevent operation of something you’ve bought.
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Same goes for requiring connectivity.
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If the subscription service terminates, reverse-engineering to maintain continuing operations should be protected by law, and the manufacturer should be required to provide the specifications to the public.
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DRM to prevent access to subscribable features should be illegal.
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Groooooss. You’ll own nothing and you’ll like it.
Hummm … Go f yourself.
I mean lots of mobile providers have been providing phones as part of their subscription model, that has going since the 2000s.
That is not convenient at all, but some folks don’t want to downplay 1000+$ and they really want an iphone or whatever.
It seems to me Apple and Samsung want to get their fair share of that (still sucks though cause its all in the “you don’t own anything”)
Of course they want to make upgrading more attractive because it is less attractive now that it ever has been.
If you want people to buy new stuff, making that stuff different from the old stuff they already own would be a good idea.
F-them! I’m quite happy with my DeGoogled Fairphone 6.
“guaranteed buyback” just nerfs the used market.
Is it really a buyback if you’re only leasing the device?
All the plans here are lease to own I think, Ontario Canada.

The way I read that title: Apple and Samsung stopped innovating, now sales aren’t growing, so it’s time for enshittification.
Samsung added a 10x telephoto lens and i was excited to finally get that over the regular 2x or 3x of the time.
Then they stopped making them and went back to 5x.
This phone still works great
A 10x zoom might tempt me to upgrade… Not much else would.
How good is the lens ?
Ive really enjoyed using it, pictures come out really nice. It helps to have something to steady yourself on though if you want the best outcome as your small movements move the window much more.
Subscriptions were supposed to replace cable, then software, then heated seats, now phones. Funny how every innovation somehow ends with paying forever. If your business model needs me renting hardware I already carry everywhere, maybe the product isn’t improving fast enough to justify buying it?
You should buy it. Every time. Fuck subscriptions.
some subscriptions are fine though, like email or a vpn.
you could argue there should be no need for a vpn but… it is what it is
Lots of vpns claims are fake but whatever.
yeah i just wanna hide my ip from random websites, they don’t need to know my ip
i couldn’t care less about what vpn providers say, i don’t even know what my vpn provider (proton) “promises”.
Services as subscriptions: fine. They are ongoing agreements that require an unspecifiable amount of labor, it makes sense to pay as you go.
Subscription goods? Fuck that. If I am in posession of it and responsible for maintaining it in a specific state of operation and quality, I basically own it anyway.
Charging me monthly for a pocket-sized computer with the added stipulations that the seller gets to dictate what I’m allowed to do with it, probably installs spyware on it (on top of the OEM and OS spyware), and if I break it (or otherwise violate the terms of use) I have to buy it anyway and they still get to keep it? They’ve basically reinvented a mix of payphones and library PCs, but more invasive and more expensive
They’ve basically reinvented a mix of payphones and library PCs, but more invasive and more expensive
No this isn’t even the same thing. Library PC is made available to you for free (paid via taxes). Payphone was a bit a different breast, as they supposed to make phone service available at any place when before we had cellphones, although they were also available for free (you paid for making calls though).
Over here they want to remove ownership. Instead of owning a house, you rent an apartment, instead of owning a car you pay to use self driving one, instead of owning a movie or music (yes, I know) you pay for streaming service, and now you won’t even own the computer in your pocket.
Basically they want society where we don’t own anything and only pay subscription fees to live. This push toward that world is called technofeudalism. Only billionaires own things and we are just serfs at their mercy.
With smartphones current prices and componants becoming more expensive they are realizing not a lot of people will buy a smartphone costing more than 1500 dollars. Especially when hardware is now good enough and people are starting to try to keep their phone as long as possible.
Making you rent your phone allow to hide how much it’s going to cost you and ensure them a steady cash income.
This!









