Assembly Bill 2164 authored by Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) would have prohibited California’s governor from recognizing a request for extradition of a person related to their providing a legally protected healthcare activity in the Golden State to transgender individuals, or if they provide reproductive services. It provided certain exemptions, such as an extradition required by federal law.

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    Basically he said that he thinks this should be left up to the governor, whoever that is, and no matter how righteous and well intentioned, the issue shouldn’t be decided for all time this way, eroding future governors’ authority.

    What a spineless position. Why pass any laws at all? Why not leave everything up to the whims of whoever is in office?

    Doesn’t the legislature decide issues all the time and enshrine those decisions for the future in law? Isn’t that what they do? Why the fuck should extradition for providing healthcare be any different? Isn’t he “eroding the authority” of the legislature in saying no, we should leave this as governor’s discretion, just in principle?

    I’m not just hating Newsom reflexively here. I seriously don’t understand his argument, despite trying.

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    “Governor vetoes bill that would limit the powers of the Governor.”

    I’m so shocked.

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    This is why I dont want him as a presidential candidate. 😒 We cant allow people to get hunted down so his chances of winning are better. MAGA wants to force facism upon us and I’m not willing to let establishment dems move their moral compass.

    Mark my words, he would NOT hold anyone, including trump, accountable. He and the other paid-fpr establishment dems would say, “Oh, we need to move on as a country.” No we don’t, we need accountability, STARTING with the dems!

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    Hey liberal dems, great job at losing the queer vote.

    bUt ItS sTiLL beTTeR tHAn GoP

    No, we have third parties. I wouldn’t trust anyone that throws me under the bus, in a dumb attempt to score points with voters that would never vote that candidate in the first place.

    Fuck fascism. This is how we succumb to fascism. Liberal politicians try to appease fascists.

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      I mean, they are unlikely to lose the queer vote. Mostly because voting third party is almost entirely useless, especially in the presidential election, but also because it’s fundamentally easier to just change the party from within. Queer people are so much more politically active, too, so this is just shooting himself in the fucking foot. But, queer people are less likely to vote third party, especially trans people, because of that.

      Like, feel free to list off any national-level third party you think has an actual shot, and you will be wrong. State-level, maybe but unlikely. Local-level, absolutely possible. But national third parties exist to push narratives, and that’s all.

      I get that this will cost him votes, but this third party pushing without even naming any parties is the type of stuff that fake progressives push to destroy collaboration. If you want to push a third party, name it, so you can build a coalition.

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        My point is, if a politician is willing to compromise on queer rights to get elected, the they’ll probably do so to maintain their seat once in office.

        A queer individual stuck that situation gets stuck with the status quo, whether they vote third party or not.

        Okay, most people are concerned with the economy. Who cares about how well capitalism is doing? These folks are fighting for the very rights to their bodies. That’s way more of a priority for them than the price of gas.

        Again, if we don’t elect people who actually fight for queer rights and platform based on that, then we’re shoving a problem under the carpet because people don’t like orange man and the price of gas is high. Queer rights will be dismissed whether it’s orange man or not.

        And overall Newsom is fucking terrible on so many levels and I will never vote for him. He’s a shit governor. If the Dems let him get the presidential nomination, congrats, I’m not voting Dem. The DNC will just be handing another win to Trump.

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          Newsom is a particularly shit person, correct. I would vote for him over any Republican, because while he’s fucking awful, he is a particular type of awful that fucks over less people in general, and he would be the only real viable choice at that point.

          At that point. Before that happens, he would’ve been through a butt-fucking-ton of primaries and caucuses and debates and what-fucking-have-you. He would’ve been the popular candidate by that point and solidified the coalitions around him. Because that’s how you build up a powerbase for change.

          I get not wanting to vote him, but you make concessions in a democracy. No one likes that part, but how fucking else do you work together? My hope is that Newsom or anyone else gets shoved into the dirt for abandoning people, be they trans, poor, immigrant, or any other minority. But if he doesn’t? I hold my fucking nose and vote for the lesser evil.

          Anyway, the point is you didn’t list a third party, and that makes me think you are a fake progressive. Like, imagine saying “I won’t vote” at the same time you say “Vote third party” and complaing the GOP would win. That’s some escapist logic where you pretend you didn’t help cause more issues because you didn’t do anything. Never mind that you didn’t say to caucus or primary to throw out bad Democrats. I’m really just waiting for the accelerationist foot to drop.

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            Fake progressive.

            Get out of here with your No True Scotsman argument.

            Newsom is already unpopular with Dems across the board. If he gets the nomination, that means the DNC pulled a Bernie fiasco again. And they’re not getting my vote under those conditions. AOC needs to be the candidate. That’s the only acceptable choice if progressivism is wanted.

            IDGAF about advancing the interests of capitalist politicians so everyone can afford nice toys and luxury vacations. The people getting primaried who are actually for workers rights are still in the minority. We need multiple elections to make them the majority.

            Until the party gets pulled left by more primaries in the future, then this is what we’re at. Voting for more of the same shit leads to more of the same shit.

            Hold my nose for the compromise of queer rights. No thank you. Compromising on justice leads to no justice. I’ll vote blue when it serves actual progress.

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              Explain how not voting somehow makes the Democratic party more progressive, and I’ll show you someone whose ultimate goal is violent revolution.

              You can pretend that’s not your goal, but there isn’t another way if you refuse to compromise or coalition build. And if that’s your goal, don’t be a fucking coward about it and just admit that from the onset. And then while you’re admitting that, you can also admit you don’t really give a shit about queer people, or you would be following the plurality of them with voting Democratic.

              If you set the bar for your leftism at where you are at, anyone left of you can say the same thing and refuse to vote for you and what you believe. Like, you get that, right? You get that anyone can then justify themselves and say what you believe isn’t left enough and refuse to vote what you want, even if it would ultimately save more people.

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    So he vetoed the “You can’t hunt down doctors across state lines because they gave trans people health care” law, because it… “sets a bad precedent”.

    How about the precedent of not hunting down doctors for… being doctors…???

    How about the precedent of not being insane fascists???

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    For someone like Newsom there will never be a right time or manner to implement protections for trans people. And there will always be some clever excuse for which to cling. But when they are called to protect the interests of the powerful, they will break any precident or boundry to achieve those aims.

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    He also vetoed telework protections for us state workers and we are on the verge of a strike because his admin has returned our union’s proposals with… ZERO. Literally, NOTHING. Their response to our demands in union negotations was ‘how about nothing, instead?’

    He has clearly become red-pilled, idk what’s wrong with him but the most cynical interpretation would be money, stupidest interpretation would be he thinks this will help him become president.

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      On that note, when I see news covering Cali state worker telework, they love to go to the streets and find everyone they can to interview who’s attitude seems to be “fuck you, I can’t work from home so you shouldn’t either”

      I can’t help but feel like that’s intentional to turn people against remote workers

      I mean… Even if they’re just selfish assholes, do they not get that traffic is getting worse again because agencies and businesses are forcing return to office? That more people working remote is actually good for people who can’t for whatever reason too?

      Sorry, tangent; but GN’s attitude on this has yet another incredibly frustrating and bad bit of policy from him

      I really hope he doesn’t run for president, and if he does, that he gets shut down early in the primary.

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    We can’t let him win the primaries. He’s probably the one candidate who could keep any Democrats home.

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      Joe Biden Roombas back onto a debate stage after bumping into several walls

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    Our next President-apparent. Fucking hell, this is who they’re going to run against Vance, aren’t they?