Mastodon Bluesky Nostr where Akkoma where Iceshrimp where Friendica where Pixelfed
“If it ain’t got no for-profit “Inc.” and no CEO, we ain’t gonna support it.”
@JupiterRowland bro mastodon is like 60% of the fediverse, one step at a time
Too many app devs don’t know jack about the Fediverse. Or they didn’t when they started developing their apps.
It happens again and again that someone jumps into Fediverse app development, maybe even claims to build a, quote, “Fediverse app,” end quote. And then they build it hard against Mastodon, only Mastodon and nothing but Mastodon. Not even just the Mastodon API. Straight against Mastodon with both a frontend and a backend that only supports Mastodon.
Usually because at this point they still think the Fediverse is the Mastodon network, and there’s nothing else in the Fediverse than Mastodon. Some 99% of all Mastodon newbies come into Mastodon believing that, the vast majority still spends the first months believing that, and my estimation is that every other Mastodon user still believes it.
And when you tell such a dev that the Fediverse is more than just Mastodon, and there’s a whole lot of stuff that isn’t Mastodon, but that uses ActivityPub, and that communicates with Mastodon like Mastodon communicates with itself, they’re taken off-guard.
“What? What do you say? You aren’t on Mastodon? How can you talk to me then? Like, black magic or what? Whaddaya mean, that’s normal? There’s other stuff connected to Mastodon? But Mastodon is the Fediverse. Whaddaya mean, it isn’t? The Fediverse is not only Mastodon? So it’s Mastodon forks? No? Is it extra stuff glued onto Mastodon then? Not either? Like, WTF? Yeah, sorry, no. I’ve built my app hard against Mastodon, and if I wanted to support anything else, I’d have to rip everything out and rewrite everything from scratch. 'Sides, it ain’t worth doing anyway. Literally nobody uses that stuff. You’re, like, literally the first whom I talk to on Mastodon who isn’t on Mastodon. Everyone else I see uses Mastodon.* Over 99% of all people in the Fediverse are on the original, Mastodon. Ain’t worth supporting those few others.”
All this explains why you have tons of iPhone and Android apps for Mastodon that either only work with Mastodon, or that you can connect other Mastodon API stuff to, but only have Mastodon’s features at hand. And at the same time, you barely have any apps that support anything beyond Mastodon’s features. Exception: Lemmy apps, often written by people for whom the Threadiverse or the Fediverse as a whole is Lemmy.
*No, they don’t. But Mastodon users can’t see it unless either non-Mastodon users do something that’s painfully obviously not possible on Mastodon, or they rub it straight into Mastodon users’ faces.
@JupiterRowland okay but see this from their point of view, they even haven’t addded threads yet, why would they add something 15 people could potentially use ? I believe at least one mobile client should be developped by the network (just like mastodon) because its the main reason of why I still use mastodon and not iceschrimp for example
Common fallacy that the only thing in the Fediverse that people use is Mastodon.
Misskey, for example, is bigger than Lemmy AFAIK.
@JupiterRowland misskey (firefish & iceshrimp not included) is very little compared to mastodon in terms of popularity
Maybe it isn’t as massive as Mastodon in the western world. But add all the users in East Asia, especially Japan where Misskey comes from, and you’ve got numbers that can’t be ignored anymore.
Openvibe is anti-libre software, malware. We do not control it. It fails to include a libre software license text file, like AGPL.
If a communication software has terms of service, run away!
What do you use?
I host 2 ejabberd servers. One casual, federated, the other one standalone, for work.
- Conversations is a decent android client that supports modern XMPP standards
- Dino on the desktop. It just happen to support the same subset of standards as Conversations, so they work pretty well together.
For Mastodon, I’m using an Akkoma instance hosted by a frind of mine
- Tusky works pretty well with it. There were certain annoying bugs when I combined the official Mastodon app with Akkoma.
Every once in a while I try Matrix, but each time I try to log in, Synapse is is fucked in a different way. I have to scrap it up and start from the ground up some day.
- Only the element based clients so far, because every alternative lack certain features.
I’m a big fan of Nostr, because of one particular feature - You control your identity without having to selfhost a server. The network seems to be occupied by the christian-carnivore-bitcoin-conservatives so far, therefor it’s pretty bland when it comes to content.
- Amethyst on Android
- Gossip on the desktop. This one requires a certain knowledge of the protocol. Each action needs to be manually triggered.
For some special use cases I have Signal, but most of the time, Telegram is the best the average person can do to meet me in the middle.
Does it really matter that much? You still control your profiles on each actual site it’s just an aggregator.
Proprietary garbage
I don’t mind proprietary software - it seems it’s what a lot of people want, and I simply won’t use it.
Promoting proprietary software named “OpenSomething” should, however, be banned as false marketing.
Y’all remember Pidgin?
That proggie was the bomb for all your AOL, ICQ, MSN, etc so you can keep up with your homies while you update your live journal.
