• Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 hours ago

    This idea that it is about bribes relies on not having any clue how a memecoin works.

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      15 hours ago
      1. Buy in immediately
      2. Creator with majority of supply inevitably dumps it on the market
      3. Now they have your money
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        8 hours ago

        No. I understand you think that’s how this works but it’s not. That’s simply not how crypto currency works in anyway. This is some nonsensical Hollywood imagining of them.

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            2 hours ago

            When the coin is created it’s worth fractions of a cent. So the people who buy the coin aren’t paying a bribe; they are collaborating on the future rug pull.

            The value of the coin rises as other people buying up the coin after that initial period as they try and get in ahead of the rug pull.

            This is also all happening in public on a ledger than will forever been public. So it’s literally the stupidest place to do a bribe.

            There are coins specifically designed to obfuscate sellers and buyers with quesrionable levels of success but these are not memecoins. They require sophisticated knowledge that is larger than the sum of the entire Trump administration’s collective knowledge basis by several magnitudes. This is only true because there is a tremendous amount of negative knowledge; what we used to call lies and other bullshit.

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              When the coin is created it’s worth fractions of a cent. So the people who buy the coin aren’t paying a bribe; they are collaborating on the future rug pull.

              This is just semantics if the result is that the money gets to its destination. I’m assuming much of the trading for this happened on an AMM, which is like a two way vending machine. You put money in to get some memecoins, and that same money can be extracted by doing the reverse. The liquidity is normally controlled by the people who made the coin anyway. A perfectly functional method for paying a bribe.

              This is also all happening in public on a ledger than will forever been public. So it’s literally the stupidest place to do a bribe.

              I don’t know if there are actually people paying bribes this way, or if they consider it the best method, but it would make sense because a thin veneer of deniability would be more than enough in this case, and its public verifiable nature could help them get credit for it. How would anyone be getting in legal trouble for bribery because they bought this thing and “lost” money on it, it’s just not happening in the current political climate. Holding the worthless tokens in a wallet publicly associated with them would serve as a receipt they could point to, to demonstrate loyalty.

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                25 minutes ago

                Liquidity isn’t a mechanism for facilitating bribes, it’s just isnt.

                I really do not know what more to say here. it is clear to me that you do not understand or rather do not want to understand because you’ve already decided you know.

                This is why I was flippant in my intial responses. I was quite certain you would remained convinced of your own fantasy. It takes very little knowledge of markets to see the flaws in what you want to be true.

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                  Liquidity isn’t a mechanism for facilitating bribes, it’s just isnt.

                  I explain how it could be, and all you got in response is ad hominem rhetoric. How about instead of implying you know more than me about markets and what knowledge of them implies, you actually refute the point without phrases like “it just isn’t”?

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          It really doesn’t matter if it’s cryptocurrency or a tulip, if its an speculative asset that is exactly how the wealth transfer happens.

          People dump money into it -> asset price goes up -> Majority holder sells and takes the money -> asset price crashes.

          The use-value of the thing doesn’t matter.