• hoch@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    The phones are absolutely not the same, you just have a shitty carrier that installed extra stuff on your phone

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      I bought my Samsung phone directly from Samsung and my carrier is a BYOB Mobile Virtual Network Operator. Before I ever connected my new phone to the carrier network it was riddled with bloatware that I can’t uninstall. Yes carriers are guilty of installing crap, but Samsung is just as guilty.

      I’ve bought several Samsung phones over the years and this is the second factory direct phone I’ve received that was like this, they didn’t used to do this crap. Since this seems to be the norm now this will probably be the last Samsung I buy and when it’s time to replace I’ll just get a pixel and flash grapheneos on it, been curious about trying that anyway.

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      I had a Samsung phone (A20E) which was by some margin the most terrible piece of technology I’ve ever used. Barely functional a couple weeks from buying. This is anecdotal, of course, but since those are mass-produced and supposedly identical from unit to unit…

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          …what? Samsung is the one installing bloatware. The carrier may add their own but you can avoid that by simply not buying those locked models. You can’t avoid the Samsung bloatware.

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            I dunno, dawg. I’ve been buying unlocked Samsung phones for like 10 years and I’m not sure what kind of bloatware or ads you’re talking about

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              So you have zero Samsung apps on any Samsung phones you’ve ever purchased? Lies.

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                What, are you talking about the calculator, camera, and note apps that come installed on the phone? That’s not bloatware, that’s like basic functionality 😂

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                  • Samsung Internet
                  • Samsung Health
                  • Samsung Cloud
                  • PENUP
                  • Samsung Notes
                  • Microsoft Outlook
                  • Samsung Keyboard
                  • Samsung Email
                  • Samsung Pay
                  • Samsung Members
                  • Samsung Galaxy Store
                  • Samsung SmartThings
                  • Samsung Health
                  • Samsung Kids
                  • Samsung Pay
                  • Samsung Pass
                  • Samsung Flow
                  • Samsung Music
                  • Samsung Bixby
                  • Samsung Maps
                  • Samsung Galaxy Wearable

                  You’re gonna sit there and tell me that none of this is on your phone?

                  It doesn’t matter if they’re “basic” or not. The point is I don’t want them, they’re not necessary, I cannot remove them, and I don’t find it acceptable that someone else gets to charge me hundreds of dollars and then turn around and control what software is allowed to be on my phone. If you’re fine with having bloatware on your phone, that’s fine, you can just say that. It’s ok.

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                  I think they mean Bixby and OneUI and similar, but I have been using Google phones for a while so I could be very out of touch