Also, are you saying that everyone who voted for AOC was a progressive? Because that seems wrong if they also voted for a fascist. How do you separate out the people who aren’t progressives and voted for AOC? Feelings?
Surely there’s a non-zero number of them. Why are you counting them as progressives who crossed over instead of MAGA who did?
Yes, we’ve established that Harris lost. Remember when we did that?
You’ve yet to demonstrate your claim that it was the progressives fault though despite your constant bitching about it. It sure seems like you’re incapable of doing so or you’d have done it already.
What makes you think it was the progressives’ doing and not Biden refusing to step aside to have a real primary? Oh that’s right: you’d never blame the center for their incompetence.
I can’t wait to hear the progressives tell us why we shouldn’t vote for whichever democrat runs against him.
As a reminder this is the comment you started replying to and if you need ‘numbers’ or ‘a source’ for this you’re either sealioning or you took all of 2024 off the internet.
It sounds like you’re just saying whatever you can to blame the progressives instead of the vast majority of the party then.
Maybe they shouldn’t structurally oppose the people who get that crossover vote by actually helping their constituency? You know, the people who don’t take money from billionaires and therefore aren’t beholden to them?
Let’s see those numbers!
Unless you don’t have them?
I don’t care about feelings, I want numbers.
Also, are you saying that everyone who voted for AOC was a progressive? Because that seems wrong if they also voted for a fascist. How do you separate out the people who aren’t progressives and voted for AOC? Feelings?
Surely there’s a non-zero number of them. Why are you counting them as progressives who crossed over instead of MAGA who did?
These are the numbers that matter and they are from 2024 unlike any you’ve produced.
Yes, we’ve established that Harris lost. Remember when we did that?
You’ve yet to demonstrate your claim that it was the progressives fault though despite your constant bitching about it. It sure seems like you’re incapable of doing so or you’d have done it already.
What makes you think it was the progressives’ doing and not Biden refusing to step aside to have a real primary? Oh that’s right: you’d never blame the center for their incompetence.
As a reminder this is the comment you started replying to and if you need ‘numbers’ or ‘a source’ for this you’re either sealioning or you took all of 2024 off the internet.
there is no way I’m voting for newsome or Shapiro.
Even if the other choice is for Trump’s third term?
I’m not voting for Shapiro again. I guess newsome has some chance with me, but he’s been doing his level best to end that.
So if 2028 was Shapiro vs Trump you’d sit it out or vote third party?
absolutely. if you have any say in the primary, remember I’m in Pennsylvania
So we’re going with the loudest dipshits on the Internet being representative of the caucus?
Then I have bad news about the way centrists talk about their allies in the progressive caucus.
Both of the progressives?
Ah yes, I love how progressives are both too small to matter, yet large enough to throw a whole-ass election.
I’m talking about the ones in caucus.
It sounds like you’re just saying whatever you can to blame the progressives instead of the vast majority of the party then.
Maybe they shouldn’t structurally oppose the people who get that crossover vote by actually helping their constituency? You know, the people who don’t take money from billionaires and therefore aren’t beholden to them?