“b-but bears are actually dangerous!” Shut the hell up.

  • bbuez@lemmy.world
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    Maybe a divide for you, my SO says she’d pick the bear if it wasn’t me. And I don’t blame her.

    Instead of arguing the merits of this debate, maybe its worth analyzing your own merits. Men (individually but amongst their peers) should be ashamed that women typically seem to want to pick a bear over themselves, instead of falling further into the rut that pushes everyone - not just women - away from their social circles and friend.

    Someone tells you they’d rather be getting mauled by a bear? Take the hint. The divide exists within your head, make friends, be kind, and you’ll find happiness

    Edited for individuals to contextualize on their peers instead of generically

    Edit edit, I mean go ahead, be reactionary

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      Men should be ashamed that women typically seem to want to pick a bear over themselves

      Shame is an individual thing. Men, plural, is a whole bunch of people. Why should I be ashamed for the actions of people that aren’t me?

      …and just to be clear here: I’m not even arguing that we shouldn’t battle this one out between the genders. But collective punishment is against the Geneva convention and I really don’t like to stay quiet when people commit war crimes.

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        So my initial response was “jesus fuck that’s some unnecessary hyperbole, I get your point but that’s ridiculous”

        And then I realized that’s the same response I have with women who pick the bear so

        I dunno

        Maybe you all suck?

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        Wait sorry I just read your comment, who the fuck said war crimes? You should be ashamed of your peers if they’re misogynistic, whats a war crime there lmfao

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          Me. I said war crimes. Collective punishment is a war crime. You cannot hold people to account on the basis of group membership.

          If you want to make a sensible statement, try “You should be ashamed if you don’t distance yourself from misogynists”. In that case you say someone should be ashamed for their own actions (or inaction), not for something some amorphous group did. Also changing the general “men” to “your peers” is peak goalpost moving.

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      Excuse me?!

      The fuck should I be ashamed for?

      Why am I responsible for the actions of other men?

      Go have your fucking guilt trip if you want to but don’t include me.

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        1 year ago

        Reading comprehension, my apologies for the poor original phrasing, but yes you should be ashamed if you dont get the point.