The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    7 days ago

    I feel, personally, that it needs to be a bit of both. If people don’t speak up it’s difficult for others to find they may not be so alone in their views. Discontent needs to be visible and heard to start a movement. Sadly (as shown in the video referenced - and in recent elections) simply “playing the game” has resulted in this death spiral we appear to be in. What is to be done? Disproportionately congress is still occupied by boomers who refuse to pass the torch and tragically are out of touch with reality. Gen X and Millennials make up very few seats thanks to the death grip held on many of these seats. They’re old so you need to speak up ;) Jokes aside - to gain any traction on subjects such as these we need to be vocal.

    Yeah - I hear that. I wouldn’t say “don’t speak up” so much as don’t just speak up. Speak up but also work the system as it is, Losing the vote to somebody like Trump is counter-productive, maintaining the status quo would have been better even if it’s still imperfect.

    I disagree somewhat here. I believe both parties put a fairly significant effort into their particular candidate.

    I’m thinking more of Trump’s first campaign which set this all in action. That’s when he was truly still an outsider.

    Other than that I think we mostly agree.

    • Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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      Yeah - I hear that. I wouldn’t say “don’t speak up” so much as don’t just speak up. Speak up but also work the system as it is, Losing the vote to somebody like Trump is counter-productive, maintaining the status quo would have been better even if it’s still imperfect.

      That’s a fair statement. I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that the current administration hadn’t won as a result of the failure of the voters on the other side so much as the aligning of a series of events. Too many people are simply making statements like well you didn’t vote hard enough… which simply ignores reality.

      I’m thinking more of Trump’s first campaign which set this all in action. That’s when he was truly still an outsider.

      I believe we are aligned I this thought. It’s their club and outsiders are a threat.

      Other than that I think we mostly agree.

      Cheers. This has been a fun exchange minus the earlier confusion. Appreciate you sticking it out to clarify 👊