• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Biden just tried to gaslight America that things were fine, and didn’t actually fix anything

    You spell “things were slowly improving from disaster” and “didn’t allow america to slide into recession as we emerge from global 100-year pandemic” weird.

    I love how this ‘gaslight’ lie is itself a gaslight. Sorry Stein lost, but she couldn’t have won, and wasn’t supposed to. She was funded to fool you and others into forgetting it was really a binary choice, and your split votes allowed Republicans to win. Take the win.

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      Almost all the recovery went to the owner class, and you’re fucking blaming the working class for noticing. Quit your bullshit.

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        Almost all the recovery went to the owner class under Biden, so let’s elect Trump and transfer EVERYTHING to the owner class.

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          I never said the public was smart, just at least a little bit observant. ¯\_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

          When the status quo sucks, any chance at improvement—even a dubious one—starts to look good. That’s why it was so fucking essential for the Democrats to pivot left economically, not (just) socially! But they abjectly refused, because in their heart of hearts neoliberals are aligned with the capitalist owner class and thus would rather have a fascist dictatorship than a socialist democracy.

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            Under Biden, economic inequality decreased for the first time in a generation.

            But you dumb shits absolutely refused to believe it. Because propaganda fucking works.

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              Or maybe they were looking at their own lives and the lives of people around them? After decades of gaslighting from both parties it’s no wonder that Americans don’t trust the statistics they are offered.

              Biden did do a lot of economic good and it’s true that income inequality was reduced on his watch. However it wasn’t the kind of fundamental change required for most people to actually experience it in their lives.

              Marginal changes around the edges also don’t add up to any kind of narrative that Democrats can use to drive participation. Trump supplied a narrative that Biden could use against him in 2020 but, by 2024 that story was old. The narrative around Trump in 2024 looked more like a classic hero arc than the classic Bond villain he was in 2020. The Democrat’s narrative was about technocratic competence, something I appreciate but not terribly engaging. Biden’s debate performance and late withdrawal also ran counter to that story.

              It might sound silly or flippent to talk about narratives, but anybody in marketing will tell you that the narratives around a product usually matter more than the qualities of the product itself. There are effective narratives that Democrats could use, but those narratives cast wealthy Democratic donors among the villains, and most don’t have the courage or integrity to do that.

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      3 days ago

      the oniony layers of gaslighting are incredible here: the republicans won because the democrats didn’t vote. there aren’t enough split voters to even cover the gulf of voters that the democrats lost anymore and they lost it because of their support for the genocide.