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    Biden forced peace upon Israel, strong arming them into a ceasefire.

    Trump reopened the war and now has more bombs over the region. And yet it’s somehow Kamala’s fault for the situation.

    How fucking stupid is the Free Palestine group? Answer: not stupid at all. Y’all are fucking malicious at this point and it’s time we consistently pointed out the hypocrisy.

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      How fucking stupid are you? Let’s see

      yall are fucking malicious

      Yeah and you’re totally not a zionist piece of shit liar

      Usually, pointing out hypocrisy requires some evidence and also a defensible opposing viewpoint which isn’t hypocritical. You are just stating your own failures as if they are your opponents.

      Turns out the anti-free palestine movement is a bunch of lying, genocidal freaks who will actively pursue violence and social rejection for anyone who points out THE FACT that Joe Biden rubber stamped the entire invasion, refused to demand any ceasefire, and went out to publicly do idf propaganda in press briefings.

      If you’re gonna be this much of an ass you should at least make sure the facts are on your side.

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          Oh you mean the ceasefire deal hamas put forward in November of 2023?

          Great job on getting that done a year and 50,000 murders later, right before handing the keys to the guy who promised to give the entire strip to bibi. Really awesome that their greatest achievement was a purely symbolic ceasefire that schmucks like you go around waving in the air like it was the end of the war.

          Go ahead and tell us who broke the ceasefire, that should clear things up for everyone watching at home.

          You are a beleaguered fool.

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            Glad to know I can’t count on you, or anyone from your political ideology, to help us defeat Trump.

            I just want to make sure everyone else is aware of this. Thanks.

            We’ve confirmed that Trump is part of the Warmongers with this move. But instead of pushing back vs the genocidal maniacs, you fuck up our overarching political moves and political strategy.

            It’s fine. My point here is to show who is, and who isn’t, part of the reliable bloc of anti-Trump moving forward. It’s better to know today that the Free Palestine idiots will die on this hill rather than work with us on the issue. Nothing is enough for you, and you’ll continue to espouse anti-Democrat talking points even in our moment of need and unity.

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              YOU are the ones not pushing back about anything and then going around whinging about how everyone is SO MEAN when you’re “just trying your best”

              Meanwhile I post proof of your entire argument about biden “forcing peace” was BULLSHIT and instead of recognizing that you are just posting zionist propaganda you double down and say “THIS is why the coalition won’t win, because you people won’t just passively accept zero pushback against genocide”

              We knew Israel was using the genocide to tank the polls for democrats and literally all they had to do was tell them to stop at any point and they would’ve won the election handily. What did they do instead? They waited until AFTER THE ELECTION to secure a ceasefire just to set up israel to break that ceasefire and kill 300 women and children in a week once trump was in office.

              You proved a point alright. You’ve shown, very clearly, that you don’t actually care about fascism or oppression. You just want to keep donald trump out of office so he doesn’t blow your cover and lay all your plans out in the open. You hate me because you’d rather have the US bombing Yemen to defend a genocide and keeping it to official channels instead of incompetently leaking the plans to a journalist in an illegal group chat. You’d rather have the liar who gives you an excuse to go out and lie yourself and say “they’re working hard on a ceasefire” while anyone with eyes can see they’re objectively doing the exact opposite.

              Keep working hard running cover for Israel and making sure that nobody believes you when you say you’re building a “coalition” that works for nobody and serves the exact same masters as Republicans

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                YOU are the ones not pushing back about anything

                No. I’m pushing back against YOU. A danger to the 2026 election if you continue on this path.

                I’ve explained plenty to my friends why Donald Trump and his policies are horrible. I don’t need to explain that to you, because you’ve gone far over to the point where your words are now counterproductive and helping Mr. Trump again.

                What I need to tell you, in particular, is that you’re counterproductive and worse than useless. You’re like this protester in AOC’s town hall. You can’t even see the fucking context of the situation in this fucking thread. Take a step back, calculate the politics a bit better, and see what’s best for you and everyone. Including those in Gaza. The #1 goal is the defeat of Donald Trump.

                And you continue to prove my point. This is a topic about “Free Palestine” protesters going too far and attacking of all people, AOC on this issue.

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                  Look man, this thread is four days old so this is just for you. The number 1 goal is stopping fascism and the democratic party had four years to do it. Instead of jailing trump for attempting a coup (the correct and lawful thing to have done) they instead gave the reins of the DOJ to a heritage foundation pick because they didn’t want to be divisive when the nation needed to heal. Who’s being counterproductive?

                  I will not allow the country to be deluded into following you into the exact same slaughterhouse republicans are building. Don’t talk to me about 2026 when nobody in office deserves their seat after the last 100 days spent sitting on their hands. You are a coward and a liar.

                  You keep acting like you’ve proved something here when all you’ve shown are pathetic insults and a lack of integrity. You have given multiple arguments which were false and then instead of explaining why you were spreading propaganda you instead chose to attack me for having a fact based position that is morally unimpeachable. I’m calling you a genocide supporter because you’re doing apologetics after I show you proof of your lies, not because you said something I dont like. You can’t tell me I’m wrong so you tell me I’m useless. I’ve calculated the politics perfectly and you are a stooge.

                  Fascists are building the camps right now and you’re mad that people are shouting outside of the q&a portion of a town hall. See the difference in the quality of grievances we are raising? This is fucking Facebook politics.

                  You are, in 2025, a low information voter. The reality of the politics today are clearly beyond your ability to comprehend. (That’s not a slight on you personally, things have been crafted specifically to create this type of low info voter.) Donald trump bad is a 3rd grade argument. We are well beyond just pointing to trump as a singular cause of these issues.

                  These are not people who are trying to be in the spotlight for virtue signaling. They are fighting on the correct side of history. You are on the wrong side of history. Either get out of the way or get in line.

                  We don’t have room for people like you defending the indefensible and then throwing out “genocide” as a buzzword as if saying it makes your argument immune to critique. If it’s a genocide then act like it. Defending the dnc after the last 19 months proves you don’t believe anything except what you’re told to.

                  If you want to actually fix the problem instead of enabling it then think about the shit I’m saying instead of getting smug about how you can convince people about how bad donald trump is. We shouldnt even be talking about him were it not the fact that the people you’re cape-ing for are the exact same fascists that republicans were 25 years ago. And finally:

                  You are the reason donald trump is in office.

                  Maybe once you understand that you’ll stop putting up this defense for the people who lied to you and are using you to spread their propaganda. Think for yourself and fight for people with actual morals and values to take their places. Stop calling me counter productive and actually think about what being productive is. There’s probably DSA in your town and they’re doing more to improve your life every week than democrats have in their entire lives. Donate to zohran mamdani. Volunteer. Don’t lecture me about 2026 when I’m already laying the groundwork to actually create change.

                  Do better.

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                    Fascists are building the camps right now and you’re mad that people are shouting outside of the q&a portion of a town hall.

                    Yes. Because this proves you don’t got my back in 2026.

                    If you can’t prove you’re going to be useful to me in stopping Trump next time, then I don’t give a shit about anything else you say.

                    And sitting here talking about how Biden was a genocide supporter and Kamala deserved to lose is just that. Fucking propaganda designed to stop our best chance at ending Trump last election or this next election.

                    You fucking get on board for 2026. None of this bullshit about fucking AOC up in her next speech.

                    I’m here to support the people who are doing things. Not to pull Jill Stein bullshit or whatever you think you are doing.

                    Get your head out your ass. Fucking up the Democrats won’t help you vs Trump in 2 years or 4 years.