And before somebody throws out the caricature of the parent just letting their kid run wild, yes of course that happens. But most parents don’t want that and are trying their best
The examples you’ve dismissed are what this entire conversation is about. You’ve dismissed the entire issue, which makes your input meaningless.
Yes, kids that run around and can’t be quiet should be at my candlelit restaurant, at a bar where drunk people are lurching around, at a rowdy concert, unrestrained at an axe throwing place, and especially at a music/theater performance, or a funeral/religious service where their parents refuse to parent them…
Does America not have “Family Friendly” restaraunts at all? Like not “Chuck E Cheese” but casual dining for families with outdoor playgrounds or an indoor play room?
My friends and I go out EVERY SATURDAY and 6 kids in total and they know the rules "Cause a ruckus out there on the other side of the heavy windows where I can supervise but still hold a grown up conversation.
I didnt mean it like that, I legitimately dont know. I know Chuck e cheese is a thing (great play area, terrible food) high end restaurants are obviously a thing, as is family casual like TGI Fridays and chain places, but do they have playgrounds?
Its a stupidly common thing in Australia. The food is (usually) a solid 6 or 7, sometimes an 8, the bar is pretty well stocked and the play area is like an average public park. Easiest way to explain it is like a TINY casino, theres usually some function rooms, a small (or overwhelmingly large if its a predatory shithole) area with slot machines, and a restaraunt (sometimes a few) and a play area.
If I wanted to go out to eat and had to choose between Chuck E Cheese and a restaraunt where I have to spend the whole night managing my childs behavior to not upset others and those were my ONLY options without the ball ache of organising and paying babysitters. I probably wouldnt go out.
Kids are people. There are some annoying, there are some nice, overall they’re okay. If a person wouldn’t say “I laugh when adults get hurt because adults annoy me just by being adults”, then they shouldn’t say the same about kids.
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The examples you’ve dismissed are what this entire conversation is about. You’ve dismissed the entire issue, which makes your input meaningless.
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The point here is that people don’t want no kids at all, just no mini-terrorists running amok.
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You can tell by how the words say exactly what they mean
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I suppose we should ask you the same question. You’re reading something personal into other people’s words.
Yes, kids that run around and can’t be quiet should be at my candlelit restaurant, at a bar where drunk people are lurching around, at a rowdy concert, unrestrained at an axe throwing place, and especially at a music/theater performance, or a funeral/religious service where their parents refuse to parent them…
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Does America not have “Family Friendly” restaraunts at all? Like not “Chuck E Cheese” but casual dining for families with outdoor playgrounds or an indoor play room?
My friends and I go out EVERY SATURDAY and 6 kids in total and they know the rules "Cause a ruckus out there on the other side of the heavy windows where I can supervise but still hold a grown up conversation.
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I didnt mean it like that, I legitimately dont know. I know Chuck e cheese is a thing (great play area, terrible food) high end restaurants are obviously a thing, as is family casual like TGI Fridays and chain places, but do they have playgrounds?
Its a stupidly common thing in Australia. The food is (usually) a solid 6 or 7, sometimes an 8, the bar is pretty well stocked and the play area is like an average public park. Easiest way to explain it is like a TINY casino, theres usually some function rooms, a small (or overwhelmingly large if its a predatory shithole) area with slot machines, and a restaraunt (sometimes a few) and a play area.
If I wanted to go out to eat and had to choose between Chuck E Cheese and a restaraunt where I have to spend the whole night managing my childs behavior to not upset others and those were my ONLY options without the ball ache of organising and paying babysitters. I probably wouldnt go out.
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Can you read or nah?
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I asked an honest question which you answered with an unrelated question, I offered an explanation and your response wasnt related to either post.
I have better things to do than try and have conversations with people who simply dont engage in a back and forth.
Kids are people. There are some annoying, there are some nice, overall they’re okay. If a person wouldn’t say “I laugh when adults get hurt because adults annoy me just by being adults”, then they shouldn’t say the same about kids.
In short, I hate people who hate kids.