• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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    US companies define pay either hourly or annually. In general upper and middle management will make an annual salary and the people actually doing the work will be hourly. So some of the people making annual pay believe it to be very important people know they aren’t an hourly worker.

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      Thanks for explaining. So it’s kind of a class thing too - I didn’t know that. Still, I’ve heard (read) about a lot of folks in engineering and manufacturing (so not management) talking about their annual numbers.

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        Right, that’s the third group. People who do higher priced work that upper management doesn’t want to pay overtime for.

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          Don’t forget the contractors, we flooded the market with contractor positions for a few different reasons. Some having to do with firing practices, same with insurance practices.

          Then there’s the bids for jobs where contractors can take the job and some of those can be sketchy with subcontractors who may or may not be legally allowed to work or be getting paid rates that are legitimate.

          Example: Beagal Cinema’s says they want an overnight cleaning crew that will clean all the theaters/floors/bathrooms and such nightly. Another company tells them they can do it for $500(made up number) a night. Then that contractor hires anyone, say 4 people and they bring their kids. Run through and clean it all up between 3am-9am every morning. Each one of them takes home $100 a day, and the contract-owner keeps $100. Beagal isn’t illegally hiring children in said case, and neither is the contractor, but the kids are having to work many nights a week with their parents to get the job done in time so they can be dropped off for school or maybe do homeschooling. (But those parents often don’t speak English, so I assume they would want their kids to go to a school to learn english at the very least).

          Worked at a theater that did that from 2006-2012. So it isn’t a new thing.

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      …every employer i’ve worked with endeavors to put people doing the actual work on salary as soon as possible, so they can harvest that sweet sweet unpaid overtime for maximum profitability…