I’m into the look (burberry/plaid, tattoos and tracksuits) and also the idgaf/take no shit attitude they have. First guy to flirt with me and ask me out matched this description so ig that left an impression lol
the idgaf/take no shit attitude
the “I’m a bit slow and get angry when people make me feel insecure about it” attitude 😅
I literally don’t know what any of those words mean at all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
“Chav” (/tʃæv/), also “charver”, “scally” and “roadman” in parts of England, is a British term, usually used in a pejorative way. The term is used to describe an anti-social lower-class youth dressed in sportswear.
By 2005, the term had become widely used to refer to a type of anti-social, uncultured youth, portrayed as wearing excessive flashy jewellery, white athletic shoes, baseball caps, and sham designer clothes. Similarly, girls are portrayed as commonly wearing clothes which expose their midriffs.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan
Bogan (/ˈboʊɡən/ BOHG-ən[1]) is Australian and New Zealand slang to describe a person whose speech, clothing, behaviour, or attitudes are considered unrefined or unsophisticated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
A gopnik[a] is a member of a delinquent subculture in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and in other former Soviet republics—a young man (or a woman, a gopnitsa) of urban working-class background.[2]
A stereotypical image of a gopnik is one of being conservative, aggressive, homophobic, nationalist and racist,[8] as well as holding strong anti-Western views.[2] Gopniks are also stereotyped as being prone to substance and alcohol abuse, crime and hooliganism
Think “bad boy”.
Bad boy archetype, a male who behaves badly within societal norms yet is attractive to women.
The bad boy is a cultural archetype that is variously defined and often used synonymously with the historic terms rake or cad: a male who behaves badly, especially within societal norms.
ah ok thanks
I didn’t run into “gopnik” or “chav” (or “tankie” or some other terms) much until I started hanging out on /r/Europe—they’re really not used a whole lot here in the US, if that’s where you are.
I knew “chav” was British slang, but I found it hilarious that the OP provided synonyms that didn’t help in any sense.
At least I’m not the only one
Urban Dictionary is your friend. The people described by those words tend to be the underprivileged if not also poorly educated people who turn to certain expensive fashion (and sports) brands along with a hard man (or woman) attitude to enhance their apparent status.
Frankly, I’d rather they spend their money and time on that than the other things similar groups also turn to, like drugs or nationalism. (Although in many cases it goes hand-in-hand, unfortunately, which only serves to amplify the hate from the rest of society.)
No. Chavs were the school bullies for me growing up so I get a pretty strong visceral ewe from that style choice.
From my experience Vogons are quite repulsive, especially when poetry is involved
Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me, (with big yawning)
As plurdled gabbleblotchits,
On a lurgid bee,
Anyone who finds anybody except femboys hot is SICK and DERANGED and needs to be LOCKED up.
Wait til ya hear about Juggalos. (slightly nsfw)
No, but I did learn not to judge by appearances when a bunch of them invited me to theirs to play mario kart until morning when I got lost on the way home from a NYE party
What about drongoz?
Yeah, it’s a pretty common thing. Many disadvantaged groups end up putting a lot of effort into how they look, because it’s something relatively inexpensive they can control and express themselves through. That’s why lots of fashion and culture starts among poor / gay / racial minorities, and then is co-opted (or appropriated) by the mainstream. So finding the look hot isn’t too surprising, given that that’s what they’re going for - no one wears pristine white tracksuits for practicality.
And the confident / arrogant and outsider / dgaf attitude can be pretty attractive to someone, especially if that person is shy, or feels trapped / bored by the more conventional requirements of middle-class society. I think that’s fine (nothing wrong with finding something hot) and can even be good, if it helps people overcome a lot of the social prejudice against working class culture. It can be problematic if it becomes dehumanising, seeing chavs as primal and animalistic, as happens disturbingly frequently with white folks fetishisation of black men.
Nope, had too many run-ins with bogans.
