• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Seeing the Brits consistently polling in the 15% range is amusing. I wonder if the French being the subject of the poll has anything to do with that.

    Brits and their Empire were the only ones fighting for the entire duration of the war. They didn’t have the capability to liberate mainland Europe alone, but they sure did make everything difficult for the Axis. I’ve always felt that a peace between the Commonwealth and Axis, as Hitler envisioned, was the most interesting counterfactual to consider. No need for an Altantic Wall, no bombing campaign, no base to invade France from, no African campaign, no naval interference for their shipping or need for a big U-boat fleet, etc. Also dramatically changes the calculus for the Japanese Empire in the Pacific. If the Brits aren’t tied up in Europe, then an invasion towards the Indies becomes much less tempting, potentially leading to no Pearl Harbor and the USSR and China standing alone and being pressed from all sides.

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      1 day ago

      No mention of British intel supporting Hitler and Mussolini in the first place? Wasn’t just Hitler who wanted an alliance against the Soviets, that moron Churchill considered it a possibility too!

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        He was certainly no fan of the Boksheviks, no question about it. He lived through WW1, when they signed the Brest-Litovsk Treaty and pulled out of WW1 against the Central Powers. When was British intel supporting the Axis Powers though? Sounds a little counterproductive, given his harsh opposition to them.

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          The British openly speculated about the utility of Hitler against the Soviets, the diplomatic and intel side of it was much more nefarious. Chamberlain boys and the US capitalists etc who funded the Nazis and cozied up to them after the war are responsible, as for Mussolini this is also well known. Quick search on this site for WWII terms brings up numerous extensive discussions about this so I have no reason to believe this will be taken seriously either lol

          Britain ‘secretly backed’ Mussolini’s March on Rome

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            Of course they did. They also speculated about the utility of using Stalin against the Axis. These things are common in global politics.

            Ah, in 1922. That makes more sense. Cozied up to a few of them post-war I suppose, the ones that didn’t hang anyway.

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              These things are common in global politics

              Blowhard thing to say not even going to bother with it

              A few of them lol? For starters this is a very common meme have you not seen it? Doesn’t even get into staffing the entire govt of West Germany with Nazis. Tip of the iceberg. Don’t just bluff your way through history

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                Blowhard or not, it’s completely true.

                No, I don’t find memes on social media to be healthy sources of information. Fine for light-hearted entertainment, but usually more propagandistic than educational when they try to be serious. Real history is entirely too complex for anything worthwhile to be conveyed with simple factoids.

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                    I wasn’t saying I was unfamiliar with all the people, you may recall from just a couple comments ago that I agreed there was collaboration with some people that were not hung.

                    You asked if I’d seen the meme. I answered truthfully, no, and I told you why. I think you’re more interested in trolling than giving any fucks though, judging from your tone.