• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    Countries don’t fight wars, people do. It was won by the brave young men and women who died fighting it and funding it, your average citizen. It was won by the people’s efforts then at that time. Respect the dead, respect ghosts, or your ancestors may force you to become one. Stop spreading nationalistic bullshit.

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      So, which nation had the most soldiers give their lives to put Hitler in the ground? Which nation had the most civilians murdered and expelled? Can you remember?

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        Why are you ignoring Russia’s active efforts at the time to genocide their own people? They used this war as an opportunity to lower the population, something they do a lot in Russia tbh. “I would never have a son in Russia,” an older Russian woman told me once. Look up the Holodomor.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

        They were genociding the fuck out of people too

        You have to build your philosophy off more than just wanting a fake ideal of a country to worship, that doesnt exist because every country has had shit. You want to cultify the left, but cults require narcissism and narcissism requires delusion and thus the left will never be a cult. Cults are inherently right wing. Narcissism is right wing. Controlling people is right wing. Eugenics and wars are right wing.

        Since WW2, how many Russian men have died because they were taught to glorify all the deaths in WW2, when it was really the elites killing them on purpose in the first place? Don’t you see the brain washing???

        Eta: just like PoC in America were put in the deadliest positions in WW2 to continue the active genocides going on in the US. It isnt just one country, the elites, kings, etc, constantly are attacking regular people and propagandizing us about who is responsible

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          Don’t you think it’s a little bit embarrassing to make up my beliefs to me lol? To present them with some cheap CSI style psychobabble? You have a historical vendetta against Russians as an ethnic group that transcends time period and statehood. I am well-familiarized with standard Wikipedia and Reddit sources that inform your outlines of dad history. Are you completely unable to engage with critics of your sources? Just admit it, this isn’t a serious subject for you and your emotional commitment to a narrative is all that’s important

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            I love the Russian people, read what I said again.

            I am not a fucking idiot so it’s the oligarchs and wealthy in power that I hate, worldwide. I clearly stated that.

            That’s not what psychobabble is lol

            I can see you’re unable to make any good faith counterargument to what I said, because you are unable to directly address my original points. I accept your loss.

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              You accept your historical illiteracy and pat yourself on the back, because you aren’t being given a tongue bath. Dress it up however you like, but we both know you’re out of your depth. Treating reading a book like an insurmountable task when you’ll happily read propaganda by an open fascist doesn’t conceal your motives very well. Neither does declaring that your line of inquiry was a game, with a time limit, where you make the rules.

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                Lots of projection and bad faith arguments there from someone who can’t form a valid rebuttal lol. What a tantrum. Good faith arguments, fallacies, and logic are what we build legal systems and reasoning on, because it is what is sensical and provable and arguable. I can’t argue something nonsensical and nonarguable by definition (which is why people arguing in bad faith use them - to be manipulative). Thus, you lose because you aren’t arguing, you’re just spewing ego everywhere.

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                  The one melting down is you when asked to read a book and not offered personal tutoring lol. It’s exactly like a kid trying and failing to control a conversation. That’s what a layabout like you with too much time on his hands can’t understand - being given a book is better than being treated to a Wikipedia article posting contest. Nobody should willingly spend their time seeking out Reddit arguments like you do. Probably years of your life cumulatively spent repeating Guardian articles.

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                    It’s not my turn to read anything except a good faith rebuttal of my original argument. You are welcome to include the book as a source in that. More projection and bad faith arguments from you, huh?