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    In 2025 pseuds don’t demand to be read books aloud like you’re their mommy, they “give you the chance to explain yourself”. You’re not the only one who can make reference to a context outside the thread of conversation. To begin with, there is no reason for me to believe you read the first article I posted. If you can even make an attempt to attack one point made in the article, I will have a reason to believe it. You may not be aware of how ridiculous you come off to someone with a background in this.

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      Really? Because my initial, unedited comment includes a year (1922 if I recall) that I could have only gotten from reading the first article you gave me. So, this:

      there is no reason for me to believe you read the first article I posted

      is just blatantly, provably, false. That said, this specific conversation is actually not about that, it’s about something else. Not that I expect you to care, unless it’s convenient for you.

      Lastly, asking you to address one single point in your own words does not, and should not, require a book. That’s very disingenuous.

      edit for grammar

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        Do you want some kind of award for remembering a number? There’s no indication that you know how to attack any of its points made, which would show you actually comprehended the piece. Calling a Vox article Russian propaganda is psychotic.

        No, telling you to read is not disingenuous, you feel like you are owed something, there is no promise of you getting your shower conversations. it’s undesirable for you to have to read a book. Not my problem. Then you won’t know what’s in it and you can just sit here begging me to read it to you. You’ve presented stuff referencing material I’ve already read, without doing what you ask of me. Now I present you with extended refutations of that source material.

        Of course, we both know you’re not actually capable of anything other than barking what your country’s officials told you to say. The books are useless to you for that reason

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          Just pointing out one of your lies, that’s all. That specific year was mentioned in your article. Since I commented with it, I clearly read your first article. You saying you have no reason to believe I read your article is a blatant lie from you.

          I think this is just an excuse for why you don’t want to defend your position with anything except book titles. Which is very convenient, by the way, but you’re not fooling anyone.

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            Go back and reread what you’re trying to make a pedantic point about - I said you haven’t even attempted to refute any of the articles claims. Here you still haven’t.

            Yes, it is very convenient that some of us hide our secret knowledge in books where oafs like you cannot find them, like putting cookies on top of the refridgerator.

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              Because we are not arguing about the article. This thread is about the Katyn Massacre, not British funding for Mussolini, which was what your first article was about. I am not the one that needs to reread anything here, I can apparently remember this much better than you.

              Probably because I’m not nearly as involved in numerous different attempts to spread my country’s propaganda like you are your country’s, I only have to worry about this one conversation, instead of many.

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                That’s an interesting way to cope considering that I’ve taught you a number of basic historical facts today. I live in Vietnam. Your singleminded devotion to spreading the propaganda of the people who appointed 3rd Reich criminals as their officials is disturbing. Are you perhaps being paid to waste my time? Or are you simply deranged?

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                  Your “basic historical facts” are very conveniently dodging the USSR militarily seizing the land of Eastern Poland, killing many and not granting them any autonomy, as some strange way to “protect” Poles.

                  The USSR was marginally cleaner than the Reich. Pointing out that the West weren’t good either does not mean the USSR wasn’t heavy on conquest and war crimes.

                  If I’m wasting so much of your time, you are again, fully free to leave or block me or whatever makes you feel better.

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                    Basic historical facts like that NATO countries have rewritten their own role in Nazism & harboring fascists, but you consider their historians the final word on the matter. I gave you some books to read that delve into the historical claims you make about the USSR, which you are welcome to engage with critically. As displayed by your repeated insistence on turning this conversation into a debate with yourself as a judge, you are not actually capable of digesting the material. I may as well hand a dog a laptop. Until you can download one of the books and digest their material I won’t consider you a serious person.