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    1 day ago

    Yap yap yap yap, you’re so intrigued by your own assumptions that you truly believe they are convincing. The problem is that you’ve absorbed American policy debate tactics where “unaddressed claims” are scored as wins. You’re flat out antiintellectual. It’s sad to see someone string together such a dull imitation of inductive reasoning. My guess is others attempted to use it to get through to you, and you misunderstood what they were doing. You just change the focus of the conversation bacl to your favorite propaganda after dismissing whatever you have been presented with as biased or too long to read. I doubt you have even convinced yourself of what you’re saying. After all, Furr and Losurdo are this frightening unknown to you that has you making hundreds of excuses.

    Have you ever engaged with a single critic of the WWII & Cold War history you’ve been taught in your life? Even once?

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      No, I just asked you for a brief summary in your own words. This is standard practice in conversation. You’re the one pretending like that’s too hard. This is just pretending, though, and much like your constant attempts to do personal attacks, it betrays your weakness.

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        1 day ago

        Right, you want an excuse to continue writing your bullshit without reading, that’s what I’m cutting you off from. The most entertaining aspect of this to me is you cannot even reference actual sources, just vague narratives you heard of and a Wikipedia page. Let me give you some advice: if you run into another person who actually reads, counter with your own recommendations. Even better, google a review of their book and bludgeon them with that. It seems you are so thrown off by being asked to read that you have no other move than to camp out in my replies asking for a summary. Has this never happened to you before?

        Do you just not know what to do when asked to read before running your mouth? Your persistent reply guy behavior speaks for itself

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          Okay, that’s one of the silliest ideas I’ve ever heard. We’re supposed to internalize and integrate information, not just parrot whatever our authorities feed us. This is why I ask for your words, not the words of your teachers.

          That is a horrible idea that will dull your independent thinking in the long run. Perhaps this has happened to you already. We are supposed to always consider thoughts separately from our elders, our countries and our teachers. This is very important. Without this we cannot be independent from our own traditions, our own narratives, our habits, etc. It’s not without dangers, but it’s a very important skill. We usually press it very heavily once you reach the university level. It’s not for the young, obviously, but very important for adults. It’s key to being able to be flexible, innovate and solve new problems.

          It’s like you don’t believe in personally discussing information, which I still think is a flimsy excuse to cover for your weakness. You’re not willing to simply discuss because you simply can’t. You haven’t internalized the information.

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            11 hours ago

            Cool email begging for what we used to call “spoon feeding”. I’m taking you really seriously and about to start following your instructions, but I have one condition: you tell me the last book you read. Just the title is fine

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              7 hours ago

              Whatever you used to call it, we usually just call it discussion. Funny thing is, you’ve written pages and pages worth yourself in this thread, you could have easily saved yourself a ton of time with one brief paragraph yesterday.

              Anyway, I just don’t believe you, I think you’re still just trolling. So, no, I’m uninterested in your conditions about me as a person or my habits. Either address the topic or do not.

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                  6 hours ago

                  I don’t use LLMs. Besides, I’m here because I enjoy discussing history with other people in history communities. You apparently are here for an entirely different reason, which I think is obvious to everyone.