• Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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        By your logic, anyone who votes for anyone is “helping” someone else.

        If I truly wanted to help Trump, I would have voted for him—not a third-party candidate. So no, I didn’t help Trump. I also didn’t help Harris–and that’s your main point.

        And I’m proud I didn’t help Harris. Because I didn’t want to vote for her. Thank you! :)

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          I didn’t especially “want” to brush my teeth last night, but I did anyway. Because I know that the alternative is opening up the door to things I don’t want, even more than I don’t want to brush my teeth.

          If someone woke up and said, I’m proud I didn’t brush my teeth, because I didn’t want to, I would have trouble looking at them as a source of wisdom about how to accomplish the goals they’re trying to pursue.

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            Cute analogy, But that doesn’t apply to voting because voting isn’t a routine obligation—it’s an opportunity to choose what you believe in.

            Just like choosing not to brush your teeth doesn’t change the necessity of dental hygiene, choosing to vote third party isn’t ignoring reality, it’s actively rejecting a system that fails to represent true change. Thanks! :)

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              Just like choosing not to brush your teeth doesn’t change the necessity of dental hygiene

              choosing to vote third party isn’t ignoring reality

              You’re so close to getting it. Millimeters away.

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                  Yeah, for Trump. Because that’s what a vote for Jill Stein is.

                  Your refusal to accept reality in circular logic does not make you correct.

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                    No, they’re voting for Pro-Israel candidate Rachele Fruit. Quoted earlier this year:

                    And anyone who is interested in reading and learning about the history of Hamas will be convinced that it’s not about liberation. It’s about genocide against the Jews.

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                    No, a vote for Trump is a vote for Trump. A vote for Stein is a vote for Stein.

                    I’ve already voted. And I didn’t vote for Stein. Or Trump. Or Harris. Thank you! :)

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              But that doesn’t apply to voting because voting isn’t a routine obligation

              Voting is routine and an obligation. Brushing those one’s teeth is not “a moral or legal duty”. Your reasoning is flawed.

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                  Nobody claimed that voting was compulsory. Just an obligation. Those aren’t the same thing.

                  So you know that what you said was false. Then why did you say that?

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              Rejecting the system by participating in it? And how does a candidate that will definitely never win “represent change“?