Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kolvet on Saturday said Charlie Kirk’s surgeon called it an “absolute miracle” that the bullet that killed him didn’t exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.

“I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know,” Kolvet, the executive producer of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” wrote in a lengthy post on X.

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      Haven’t watched this frame-by-frame take on the ballistics, but I would think a 30.06 would blow half his neck off. There is a frame I looked for while skimming, and oh yeah, his neck expands.

      First time I shot a 30.06 my buddy and I were drilling holes in 3/8", high quality steel. Looked like we used a drill press, wasn’t even jagged on the exit side.

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        Correct, the scenario we are being presented with, with this latest detail, is laughably impossible, if one has any experience with shooting this caliber.

        Not implausible.

        Impossible.

        A straight on shot from a 30.06 at 150 yards, yes, would have blown off a chunk of his neck at least the size of orange, a soft ball.

        It is completely impossible that a 30.06 would have just stopped barely under the skin, stopped by a collar bone or vertebrae.

        A 30.06 at 150 yards makes entire cinder blocks explode.

        No human bone can withstand this intact, none, full stop, this is not a question, a 30.06 at 150 yards has approximately 2200 FT/LBs of kinetic energy, more than double that of 5.56 at the same range, any human bone a 30.06 hits from 150 yards away would shatter and explode within the body, the bone fragments tearing through the body, probably also erupting out of the skin.

        And before anyone comments this: No, Kirk was not wearing body armor, you would have been able to see plate armor on his chest leaving tell tale imprinting signs with that light shirt he was wearing, and you can just literally see his man nipples through the shirt.

        Anything less than level 4 plate would have been blown directly through by a 30.06, it would not result in a ricochet into his neck as I keep seeing people say.

        (And realistically, level 4 plate might not even hold up to a 30.06 at that range.)

        Most of right wing gun tube is currently extremely pissed off over this ‘news’, as … they tend to shoot targets on video for a living.

        And anyone can go right now and watch them show you how impossible this described scenario is.

        This is absolute horseshit, it is an obvious lie.

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          My immediate assumption was that it was 5.56 or 2.23. No analyzing it in the moment I saw the video, just seemed reasonable at the time. Didn’t notice there was no obvious exit wound.

          If you showed me that video for the first time and said, “The round was a 30.06.”, I’d laugh in your face.

          The facts the FBI has presented are laughable on many points. If this guy has a solid lawyer, I can see him sowing a shitload of doubt in the minds of the jurors. As it stands, with what I know in this moment, I’d let him walk. This evidence is far too smelly to be beyond reasonable doubt.

          Anyway, I’m off to finally watch that video.

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            My initial guess was .270 or .243, out of a common bolt action hunting rifle.

            Now, I have no fucking clue what has actually happened, all I know is the narrative the government and admin connected right wingers are going with is impossible.

            Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones are all calling bullshit on this as well.

            Not that I trust them as reliable sources, but large parts of the right are not buying this either.

            If you are going to watch the video, up close, and you have PTSD or cannot handle gore well… fucking be ready.

            I had a legit PTSD panic attack watching the fucking geyser of blood leave from his neck.

            Its fucking bad, if you’ve ever seen anything like that in real life.

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            Also, another whole fucking weird oddity is that Robinson’s family has not actually gotten him a lawyer.

            Robinson is still, right now, trying to get a public attorney assigned to him.

            Yeah, thats right, he does not even have any legal counsel at the moment.