Congress seems to be careening toward a government shutdown, as Democratic and Republican leaders remain at an impasse over funding negotiations and expiring health care subsidies. Lawmakers have less than 24 hours to reach a deal before a midnight deadline.

Senate Democrats have refused to back the spending bill in an effort to force Republicans to negotiate on federal health care subsidies.

They are pushing for an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year in exchange for their support. Democrats also want to repeal cuts to health care programs that were enacted by the GOP’s tax and spending bill passed earlier this summer.

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    Typically, the reconciliation process begins when the president submits a budget to Congress early in the calendar year. In response, each chamber of Congress begins a parallel budget process, starting in the Senate Budget Committee and the House Budget Committee.[5] Each budget committee proposes a budget resolution setting spending targets for the upcoming fiscal year

    Want to take a guess what the first day of the next fiscal year?

    They used it on the “BBB” last fiscal year, because they never used it to pass a budget.

    So this time, they want to not use it for a budget again, so they can use it for something else again…

    I’m genuinely asking:

    What is so hard to understand about this?

    Because it legitimately feels like people are intentionally misunderstanding this, but maybe I’m just giving random social media accounts too much credit, and you just never read anything you link to see if it really agrees with you, or like in this scenario, just rooves you’re wrong.

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      I don’t think it proves I’m wrong…

      You are saying that Schumer should be obstinate because Republicans could have passed this budget through reconciliation. But they can’t, because they already used their reconciliation vote.

      Republicans made a conscious choice where they used up their reconciliation bill without addressing the budget precisely to push this situation, where they can try to pin a shutdown on Democrats despite being in full control of both chambers. They forced a situation whwre they need Democrats to vote for cloture, so they can be blamed.

      They plan an awful budget, but if there is a shutdown, they plan other awful things. There is no good path for Schumer here, because Republicans are hell bent on making Federal workers suffer, one way or another. At least he is trying to negotiate something on healthcare, so that if Republicans do try to pin the shutdown on Democrats, they can at least say “we were trying to save your healthcare”.

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        You are saying that Schumer should be obstinate because Republicans could have passed this budget through reconciliation. But they can’t, because they already used their reconciliation vote.

        They can CR with 50 votes, like they did multiple times last fiscal year.

        And in 14.5 hours use the new Senate reconciliation to pass a new budget.

        I’m still skipping steps, that’s still just a summary.

        If you genuinely don’t understand how this works. Stop making assumptions and start asking questions.

        At least he is trying to negotiate something on healthcare

        How in the fuck can anyone in 2025 America think trump is going to negotiate in good faith about anything, especially healthcare?

        so that if Republicans do try to pin the shutdown on Democrats,

        Jesus fucking Christ, we’ve come full circle…

        Schumer “negotiating” is only happening so trump can blame no budget on Dems, when Republicans have the votes

        How are you not getting this?

        Why are you so confident in the false conclusions you’re leaping to?

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          I am literally agreeing with you, except you are insisting that the rules say something other than what they say. If Republicans are going through so much trouble to pin the blame on Democrats, they will never do the things you suggest that they “have the votes” for.

          They don’t have the votes, but they also purposely put themselves in position to not have the votes.

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            I am literally agreeing with you

            You think you are…

            I have no idea why you think that, or why you think we agree…

            Because you’re still saying the opposite.

            Even after I’ve made several attempts to clarify.

            Have you never been in a situation where someone has misunderstood you, and think they’re saying the same thing? Even after you repeatedly clarify over and over?

            Like, it might be a long shot, but this is the only way I can think of explaining it, seeing if you can put yourself in the other side of this conversation.

            We are not saying the same thing, and I think you’re gonna need to understand that before I can explain why what we’re saying is different.