This paper examines the potential of the Fediverse, a federated network of social media and content platforms, to counter the centralization and dominance of commercial platforms on the social Web. We gather evidence from the technology powering the Fediverse (especially the ActivityPub protocol), current statistical data regarding Fediverse user distribution over instances, and the status of two older, similar, decentralized technologies: e-mail and the Web. Our findings suggest that Fediverse will face significant challenges in fulfilling its decentralization promises, potentially hindering its ability to positively impact the social Web on a large scale.

Abstract

This paper examines the potential of the Fediverse, a federated network of social media and content platforms, to counter the centralization and dominance of commercial platforms on the social Web. We gather evidence from the technology powering the Fediverse (especially the ActivityPub protocol), current statistical data regarding Fediverse user distribution over instances, and the status of two older, similar, decentralized technologies: e-mail and the Web. Our findings suggest that Fediverse will face significant challenges in fulfilling its decentralization promises, potentially hindering its ability to positively impact the social Web on a large scale.

Some challenges mentioned in the paper:

  • Discoverability as there is no central or unified index
  • Complicated moderation efforts due to its decentralized nature
  • Interoperability between instances of different types (e.g., Lemmy and Funkwhale)
  • Concentration on a small number of large instances
  • The risk of commercial capture by Big Tech

What are your thoughts on this? And how could we make the Fediverse a better place for all to stay?

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    2·
    19 days ago

    Discoverability is an issue that I identified quickly. One reason why artists mostly stick to X may very well be the small user base, as well the fractured nature of the fediverse making it hard to gain reach

  • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comEnglish
    2·
    19 days ago

    I‘d say I‘ve fully embraced the fediverse for over a year, running half a dozen instances for many fediverse services.

    The discoverability is indeed an issue for many services but the worst on peertube. It actually has great content but nobody sees it due to it not being properly suggested.

    On lemmy vs reddit I can proudly say a lot of topics have great content and its not easy to run out of it if you subscribe to varied communities. One big problem is how spoiled the users of commercial socials are. The amount of people there is of course insane compared to here so someone used to heroine (x, facebook and reddit) will always feel withdrawal on lemmy, mastodon and such.

    Imo, we need to keep making strong, compelling cases for the fediverse, against the corpoverse and increase our technical arsenal. Peertube needs clients for every platform and a central discovery (for example instances.joinpeertube.org).

    We also need more straightforward installation procedures so more people can host their own. Of course non tech folks will have a hard time either way but a „fire and forget“ compose file or ansible playbook, ideally next to one another like with awesome selfhosted on github.

    • mke@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      8 days ago

      We also need more straightforward installation procedures so more people can host their own.

      Hosting your own instance is not a fire and forget operation. The closest thing is single-user instances, but even then there are matters the admin must handle. Plus, there’s little incentive for doing all this work.

  • 1984@lemmy.todayEnglish
    1·
    19 days ago

    I think its been interesting to watch. What has happened is that there is now a super large instance in Lemmy.world, and a handful of smaller ones with above a thousand users.

    The promise of proper decentralization didn’t really happen. There are hundreds of small instances but they are not self contained and completely depend on the larger ones to get content.

    Defederation seems to be common since admins don’t want to deal with moderating hostile conversations, which makes a lot of sense. But it also makes it a echo chamber to some degree. We see mostly memes and jokes instead of meaningful discussions. So it’s great for a fun time but not so much more than that.

    Still, I’m happy it’s an alternative to reddit and those shitty services. I love that it’s run by ordinary people and not tech companies. And no ads or tracking. All good stuff.

    • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      19 days ago

      I started on beehaw and moved here because they got too defederation-happy. I don’t want to post on an antisocial network, if I want to be alone with my thoughts I won’t go online at all. It’s a valid choice for them to make but I believe in Lemmy because I want a non-corporate non-evasive Reddit, which kinda needs lots of different communities.

  • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    19 days ago

    Be great to get actual instance operators and admins to chime in on this. I already feel like a single aspect of that (Lemmy) is fantastic and I’d be satisfied if it was at its zenith already in terms of what it brought to the table

    • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.businessEnglish
      3·
      19 days ago

      It’s a reasonable MVP, but still needs major progress around discoverability.

      I’ve tried dragging some friends in, and they’re not opposed to leaving reddit, but the refrain is always ‘topic x isn’t there’ or ‘nobody is posting anything’.

      You can easily pick the “wrong” community on a topic, and see zero content when there’s another one full of posts but… how do you know which community on what server is the “right” one without finding a 3rd party tool that can provide metrics and you’ve lost most of the people who were interested at that point.

      And, since Lemmy is quite a lot slower, it’s also hard to tell if you’re in the right place but nobody is posting or if you’re in the wrong one and nobody is ever going to post anything, which kinda makes this require a lot more time than just picking the single subreddit that looks like what you’re after.

      • rezz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        19 days ago

        Discovery should not be a function of the Fediverse itself. It should be a tool, app, or otherwise layer on top of a baseline. Discovery is an opinionated service offering—if it’s baked in, it’s not a good thing IMO.

        • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.businessEnglish
          1·
          19 days ago

          I think that depends on your goals and concerns more than anything.

          I was merely relating my anecdotal experience with about 10 people who would be Lemmy users, but bounced off so hard they’re not even interested in considering it ever again because finding anything interesting was more effort than it was worth, so they’ve literally written off the whole Fediverse as a dumb idea for nerds.

          I can’t say I blame them because finding anything worth interacting with on Lemmy or the microblog platforms or whatever is worse than the commercial platforms, usually by design and, mostly, I don’t disagree that killing the algorithmic feed is a good thing.

          But, for something like Lemmy? It should be trivial to find out where people are talking about a topic you’re interested in, and not require knowing someone who knows what tools are updated and current and accurate and how to use the tool and THEN how to take what the tool tells you and subscribe to a community since even that is obtuse and complex.

          I think piefed’s community grouping thing is a step in the right direction, but probably could go further with being able to find and share groups between instances.