• FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    If I recall, the US vehemently disagreed with the right of the British to enforce their laws here. Quite successfully, I might add.

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      9 hours ago

      It’s not just the British, it’s all “core western” nations honestly. USA most of all, it is of course funny that a British regulator tries to do that with an American company, that doesn’t happen often.

      They demand fulfillment of their laws regardless of jurisdiction when the other side is weaker, and ignore laws of others even if firmly inside those others’ jurisdiction. And that’s so normalized that nobody even thinks about it except for such funny moments.

      There are honestly worse things.

      All of Mediterranean border and migration matters are resolved in this way, there are “coast guard” military organizations on the African shores with their own small concentration camps for those attempting to illegally migrate to Europe (not nice, of course, but doesn’t warrant such conditions) which in reality are funded by Italian and French governments and really report to them and act in their interest. I think I’ve read a few articles describing those.

      It’s not been so long since France enforced its laws on much of the African continent. Due to malicious and incompetent jerks in its top, it has lost much of that. And I hope it’ll lose everything colonial, French Guyana included.

      I’ve read just yesterday about British troops and Kenya in the context of a murder, which was pretty known in that regiment, with all the circumstance, and the perpetrator is a vet living in UK just fine with family and all, and more than 10 years after the British have formally started some kind of investigation, and it will apparently go on for a couple more decades. It’s literal mockery of the victim’s family, and it’s normal for Europeans in such cases.

      Hell, even western policy on Armenia is not a result of some rules, it’s a result of one European politician with connections having their ass torn by bandits in Armenia in 2012. They are taking revenge for that. They think thousands of honorable decent men dead are worth less than one criminal’s torn ass. That a whole nation with its history is worth less than that. That they have right to think and act like that.

      If you want Europeans (and Americans, and Australians, and Canadians, and so on) to learn honor, you need to have that whole imperial bunch thoroughly defeated by Chinese, or by India, or by them all together, or whatever.

      Otherwise it’s simply unnatural for humans to know their borders. While the empire (in the British and French, not in the Roman, nor in Chinese, nor in Japanese, nor in Russian, nor even in Spanish meaning) is still alive, it will morally decay further and further.

      And you know what’s the funniest? Growing up in Russia I thought I’m smarter than people around me for thinking that the general sense of what I just wrote is all propaganda. LOL. Soviet and Russian propaganda softened that reality, if anything, they had and have to somehow justify dealing with those nations. Modern Russian propaganda didn’t stop that too, they are just adding some delusions on the side.

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah. The truce with the native American’s was not favoured and banning slavery wasn’t acceptable…

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        10 hours ago

        One can have segregation and cheap colored abused labor without slavery, like most of the British empire after it went out of fashion. And one can rob, abuse and genocide natives with a formal truce in place.

        Those pesky colonials just didn’t understand nuance.

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    18 hours ago

    USians are surprised that they must follow the foreign law if they do business (generate income) outside of the USA.

    And the guy writing this blog is a fucking utter idiot.

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        6 hours ago

        It is not a great piece of legislation but the statements from 4chan are hysterical 😂

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      18 hours ago

      Im going to take a charitable read on this and just assume that you’re misunderstanding or uninformed of the context at the core of this, because nothing of what you said is really applicable.

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        17 hours ago

        Read again than.

        The fucking US idiot writing this blog is surprised that 4chan must follow UK law while having customers/users in the UK.

        Which part is not applicable?

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          The part where they have any infrastructure, operations, revenue, or presence at all in the UK. They don’t, so the UK doesn’t have jurisdiction. This isn’t like the Apple stuff, where physical Apple products are being sold at retail in the EU/UK. UK residents are intentionally navigating to a website outside UK jurisdiction. If a UK resident goes to Mallorca on holiday, Spanish laws, not UK laws, apply because they’re in fucking Spain.

          Also you should probably click that About page on the linked blog dude. Unless some American just randomly wound up at UCL in 1988 then graduated, stayed in the UK, and got a job at UCW Aberystwyth, you might want to rethink the random bullshit you’re spouting off as fact lol. By all means keep going off about how British ppl are “USians” and “US idiots” though.

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            The part where they have any infrastructure, operations, revenue, or presence at all in the UK.

            Do you understand how the Internet works? You don’t have to have an infrastructure in a country to be present there.

            USians need to get used to following the law. Shocking, I know.

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              Yeah, I don’t think you really understand how the internet works. Their presence is in the country where their servers are. People from the UK essentially go to another country to visit 4chan. If the UK doesn’t like that the onus should be on them to block that access, but that is also a stupid idea thanks to VPNs.

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                16 hours ago

                Their income is derived from the UK users. They can either block the UK traffic (which they don’t want as it would mean less money) or engage with the regulator regarding risk of illegal content they have been fined for:

                The controversial online forum 4chan risks being blocked in the UK after refusing to pay a fine from Ofcom for breaking [rules set by the Online Safety Act]).

                The website, which hosts adult content, was handed a £20,000 for failing to share information about the risk of illegal content on its platform.

                Media watchdog Ofcom said action would be taken against companies that “flagrantly fails to engage with Ofcom and their duties under the Online Safety Act”.

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                  Does the UK think they have jurisdiction over my server just because some twat from the UK visits my site? If so, there’s a reason why we fought a war nearly 250 years ago that said that a stupid fucking idea. Colonialism is a dead ideology