As a kid, being indoctrinated early on by fairy tales with knights, then watching action films later on, I kind of understand, since you only know about the romanticised side.
As an adult, by the time you’re supposed to understand the endless pain, suffering, atrocities, needless death of millions (even one single person), the barbarity of trying to resolve conflicts with violence, the immense sadness and sacrifice that comes with war… putting it lightly, I don’t get war lovers.
But fuck me, I fucking LOVE to learn about the technological advancements, smart solutions, brilliant engineering (hey, even strategies) that came with those, from the first stone tools to holographic sights and radar camouflaging. On one hand, it’s rather sad that we could only develop technologies due to threatening violence or trying to crush others. On the other hand, without wars, we would probably still be amputating limbs due to infections we can either prevent or treat now (thanks to field medicine development), and a civilisation that doesn’t develop its own weapons (since why would they, they are peaceful) won’t have fun when running into one that isn’t as friendly.
(And for that reason, YT already thinks I’m a WW2 nerd)
Mm, I’d dispute that we developed technology only as a result of war. Humans are naturally curious. We would develop technology no matter what
But it is true that the trajectory would be different, and there’s be differences in investment levels as well, but that’s more of a symptom of what our societies value
I think there are some ways that are defendable (like those obsessed with WW2 only because they don’t want it to happen here, like Robert Evans of Cool Zone Media), but I can’t think of a war I was obsessed with… maybe if you include Star Wars? I was a huge fan as a child and I do consider myself still a fan now, though I’ve grown to know what I like about it is just a standard hero saves the day against stronger enemy fantasy. The people who like and defend the empire has always worried me. Felt pretty fascist apologetic.
Allow me to say upfront that my upcoming example is gross extreme hyperbole, but I sort of feel like that’s saying sex is wonderful and feels good and that’s why people are drawn to rape. I do understand your point, but like, there are other ways to bond than institutionalized bloodshedding?
As a dude, being obsessed with war is weird.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks so.
it’s a publicly acceptable history geekage
As a kid, being indoctrinated early on by fairy tales with knights, then watching action films later on, I kind of understand, since you only know about the romanticised side.
As an adult, by the time you’re supposed to understand the endless pain, suffering, atrocities, needless death of millions (even one single person), the barbarity of trying to resolve conflicts with violence, the immense sadness and sacrifice that comes with war… putting it lightly, I don’t get war lovers.
But fuck me, I fucking LOVE to learn about the technological advancements, smart solutions, brilliant engineering (hey, even strategies) that came with those, from the first stone tools to holographic sights and radar camouflaging. On one hand, it’s rather sad that we could only develop technologies due to threatening violence or trying to crush others. On the other hand, without wars, we would probably still be amputating limbs due to infections we can either prevent or treat now (thanks to field medicine development), and a civilisation that doesn’t develop its own weapons (since why would they, they are peaceful) won’t have fun when running into one that isn’t as friendly.
(And for that reason, YT already thinks I’m a WW2 nerd)
Mm, I’d dispute that we developed technology only as a result of war. Humans are naturally curious. We would develop technology no matter what
But it is true that the trajectory would be different, and there’s be differences in investment levels as well, but that’s more of a symptom of what our societies value
I think there are some ways that are defendable (like those obsessed with WW2 only because they don’t want it to happen here, like Robert Evans of Cool Zone Media), but I can’t think of a war I was obsessed with… maybe if you include Star Wars? I was a huge fan as a child and I do consider myself still a fan now, though I’ve grown to know what I like about it is just a standard hero saves the day against stronger enemy fantasy. The people who like and defend the empire has always worried me. Felt pretty fascist apologetic.
I think it often has to do with the kind of bonding between men during war, and guys being drawn to that more than the war itself.
Allow me to say upfront that my upcoming example is gross extreme hyperbole, but I sort of feel like that’s saying sex is wonderful and feels good and that’s why people are drawn to rape. I do understand your point, but like, there are other ways to bond than institutionalized bloodshedding?
Y’all ever heard of fishing?
“I’m just here to make friends!”
the friends were all the people we killed along the way.
oh.